| Posted by: endy9 at April 22, 2008, 5:33 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "David Oberman" wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Slasher films are simply a subset of horror. -- Dennis/Endy http://home.comcast.net/~endymion91/ ~I was born to rock the boat. Some will sink but we will float. Grab your coat. Let's get out of here. You're my witness. I'm your Mutineer~ - Warren Zevon - - | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 21, 2008, 3:46 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 21, 12:18 am, Jared wrote: Quote:On Apr 19, 7:33 am, moviePig wrote: I'm no authority, but on this point would argue only with those who claim to be. My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. (Fwiw, I don't feel 'horror novel' carries the same stricture.) So, e.g., when I comment on HIGH TENSION, I address my remarks explicitly to 'horror fans' despite HT being *not* a 'horror movie' (...if I'm consistent, anyway). It seems a slightly artificial distinction to me. What about those movies that tease you with whether the problem is man-made or other- worldly? The film defies genre-classification until the big reveal at the end? We've already talked about THE INNOCENTS being horror - are you *sure* she wasn't imagining it? And what about very similar films with slight plot differences: 28 WEEKS LATER was science fiction but the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake horror? I think tone is what's important -... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 21, 2008, 1:50 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Ronnie Bateman" wrote: "Lookingglass" wrote: It is however, possible to make a *smart* slasher film...I just don't think that has been done yet. Something like PEEPING TOM? Psycho was a purty cool little flick. Both films are good...I just don't consider them *slasher* films. I suppose they are. I withdraw my statement. ;^) "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jared at April 20, 2008, 6:21 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 20, 5:09 am, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Quote: What I dismiss is the slasher flick as being unworthy of consideration by anyone with more than two brain cells. And miss out on this great read? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Men-Women-Chain-Saws-Gender/dp/0691048029 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jared at April 20, 2008, 6:18 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 19, 7:33 am, moviePig wrote: Quote:I'm no authority, but on this point would argue only with those who claim to be. My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. (Fwiw, I don't feel 'horror novel' carries the same stricture.) So, e.g., when I comment on HIGH TENSION, I address my remarks explicitly to 'horror fans' despite HT being *not* a 'horror movie' (...if I'm consistent, anyway). It seems a slightly artificial distinction to me. What about those movies that tease you with whether the problem is man-made or other- worldly? The film defies genre-classification until the big reveal at the end? We've already talked about THE INNOCENTS being horror - are you *sure* she wasn't imagining it? And what about very similar films with slight plot differences: 28 WEEKS LATER was science fiction but the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake horror? I think tone is what's important - Nancy Drew and Laurie Strode are both ju... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 20, 2008, 5:30 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message news:MPG.227459236c75bca79897d7@news.tesco.net... Quote:In article <6sudna6DSp7tS5XVnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@comcast.com>, Shemakhan@comcast.net says... "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote Is Lector's putting on a face realistic? (I know the character in general isn't). Was Jeffrey Dahmer "realistic"? More realistic than Lector. As someone pointed out, serial killers aren't usually the cultured, urbane type. They can be. Look up H. H. Holmes, or the Countess Bathory. PBT | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 20, 2008, 4:02 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 20, 1:01 am, David Oberman wrote: Quote:"Lookingglass" wrote: It is however, possible to make a *smart* slasher film...I just don't think that has been done yet. Something like PEEPING TOM? Indeed. It's PEEPING TOM TAKES MANHATTAN that gets problematic... -- - - - - - - - - YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 19, 2008, 12:00 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote Maybe. But 'supernatural' lets the writer pose an unimaginable (and ideally interesting) threat without contriving some real-world motivation or other. Kind of cuts to the chase... YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com ********************************** I don't consider POLTERGEIST a *Horror* film...even though it's about ghosts. (Horror...I don't know what it is, but I know I like it!) "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 18, 2008, 11:54 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote> Quote: Frankenstein is often considered to be the first Western SF novel. Since Mary Shelley has Dr. Frankenstein using medical science technobabble, not sorcery, to create the monster. Unlike Dracula, which is truly supernatural. Steven L. If FRANKENSTEIN is science...and DRACULA is supernatural...is The WOLFMAN medical...? "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 18, 2008, 11:50 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Howard Brazee" wrote: Was Jeffrey Dahmer "realistic"? He wasn't a superman the way Lector was. I tend to think that most entertainment is an *exaggeration*...otherwise it would be real life. "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Oberman at April 18, 2008, 10:17 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | Bill Anderson wrote: Quote:And I'll also say I suspect it would be hard to come up with a RAMP-F consensus on what constitutes a horror movie. www.imdb.com/title/tt0162983/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Anim8rFSK at April 18, 2008, 10:15 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:I'm no authority, but on this point would argue only with those who claim to be. My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. (Fwiw, I don't feel 'horror novel' carries the same stricture.) So, e.g., when I comment on HIGH TENSION, I address my remarks explicitly to 'horror fans' despite HT being *not* a 'horror movie' (...if I'm consistent, anyway). And thus, say, Freddy Kruger is horror but Michael Myers isn't. I don't understand the distinction. Michael Myers might or might not have been supernatural in the first film, but he certainly is in the sequels. Same notation for Jason. -- Star Trek 09: No Shat, No Show. http://www.disneysub.com/board/noshat.jpg | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Anim8rFSK at April 18, 2008, 10:13 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: On Apr 17, 11:09 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: David Oberman wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Being an old-fashioned curmudgeon, I prefer to distinguish between classic horror and more modern slasher flicks. There's a psychological tension in what I think of the true horror film that is lacking in a good over-sexed teens spending the night in a mansion without an electric light switch. Someone may have a more recent candidate but the last horror film per se that comes to my mind just now is _The Innocents_. I agree that _Silence_ do... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bill Anderson at April 18, 2008, 9:25 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | Paul B. Thompson wrote: Quote:"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vKqdnVgaoZW0kpXV4p2dnAA@rcn.net... What does Jekyll and Hyde have that makes it a horror movie? Rather, what does it have that Silence of the Lambs does not have? Both feature monstrous serial killers, psychopathic rage, women in peril, etc. etc. -- Bill Anderson Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. I don't recall anything supernatural about Jekyll and Hyde. The premise, I thought, was that what happened to Henry Jekyll was entirely natural; that the dark side released by the potion had been there all along, and in fact lurks in all men. And come to think of it, a good bit of Jekyll and Hyde was about crime and detection. These days, though, while I do think Jekyll and Hyde is best described as a psychological thriller, I admit I may be conflating Stevenson's story with the movie, which emphasized a love interest and featur... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Steven L. at April 18, 2008, 9:14 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:On Apr 17, 11:02 pm, Bill Anderson wrote: nick wrote: On Apr 17, 7:41�pm, Bill Anderson wrote: lenona...@yahoo.com wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? According to Wikipedia, "The Silence of the Lambs is a 1991 Academy Award-winning psychological thriller/horror film." �Anthony Hopkins won the Oscar for best actor. It's not a horror movie.  It's a procedural thriller about the search for a killer.  I don't know  why Silence of the Lambs gets classed as a horror movie.  If you're going to stretch the definition of "horror" to include Anthony Hopkins performance in Silence of the Lambs, you may as well go a bit further and say the same for Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.  His performance is a lot closer to the Freddy/Jason/Michael Myers template (the walking, stalking unstoppable badass killer) than what Hopkins was doing in S... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at April 18, 2008, 9:08 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:33:57 -0700 (PDT), moviePig wrote: Quote:I'm no authority, but on this point would argue only with those who claim to be. My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. (Fwiw, I don't feel 'horror novel' carries the same stricture.) So, e.g., when I comment on HIGH TENSION, I address my remarks explicitly to 'horror fans' despite HT being *not* a 'horror movie' (...if I'm consistent, anyway). And thus, say, Freddy Kruger is horror but Michael Myers isn't. (We used to have a good word available for Michael, Jason, Norman Bates, and their serial- hijinks brethren... 'terror'... but it's lately been conscripted for a war effort...) To me, when it goes supernatural, it becomes less believable, and thus less horrifying. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at April 18, 2008, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:12:06 -0700, "Lookingglass" wrote: Quote:Is Lector's putting on a face realistic? (I know the character in general isn't). Was Jeffrey Dahmer "realistic"? He wasn't a superman the way Lector was. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at April 18, 2008, 9:05 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:20:02 GMT, Halmyre wrote: Quote:Is it supernatural though? Dr Jekyll takes a drug which has mind- altering powers, which could be science fiction, but the supernatural I associate with ghosts, werewolves, vampires and so forth. Anyway, how would you classify something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which doesn't have a supernatural element? You seem to be implying that the word "horror" requires "supernatural". But you haven't convinced me that this is true. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Oberman at April 18, 2008, 8:38 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. I agree -- I was just being casuistic. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 5:16 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 18, 10:08 pm, Howard Brazee wrote: Quote:On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:33:57 -0700 (PDT), moviePig pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote: I'm no authority, but on this point would argue only with those who claim to be. My personal supposition is that 'horror movie' has long borne the de facto gestalt of the supernatural ...made real, and come to scare you sh*tless. (Fwiw, I don't feel 'horror novel' carries the same stricture.) So, e.g., when I comment on HIGH TENSION, I address my remarks explicitly to 'horror fans' despite HT being *not* a 'horror movie' (...if I'm consistent, anyway). And thus, say, Freddy Kruger is horror but Michael Myers isn't. (We used to have a good word available for Michael, Jason, Norman Bates, and their serial- hijinks brethren... 'terror'... but it's lately been conscripted for a war effort...) To me, when it goes supernatural, it becomes less believable, and thus less horrifying. Maybe. But 'supernatural' lets the writer pose an unimaginable (and ideally interesting) threat witho... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 18, 2008, 12:16 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote Quote: Anyway, how would you classify something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which doesn't have a supernatural element? *Slasher* film. "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at April 18, 2008, 12:12 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote Quote: Is Lector's putting on a face realistic? (I know the character in general isn't). Was Jeffrey Dahmer "realistic"? "...And when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him." -Nosferatu www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at April 18, 2008, 12:01 pm | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:On Apr 17, 11:09 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: David Oberman wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Being an old-fashioned curmudgeon, I prefer to distinguish between classic horror and more modern slasher flicks. There's a psychological tension in what I think of the true horror film that is lacking in a good over-sexed teens spending the night in a mansion without an electric light switch. Someone may have a more recent candidate but the last horror film per se that comes to my mind just now is _The Innocents_. I agree that _Silence_ does not make the cu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 18, 2008, 11:50 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "David Oberman" wrote: Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. Well, it isn't exactly Nancy Drew Meets Encyclopedia Brown. No, but neither is "The Usual Suspects," but it's a crime film too. PBT | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 18, 2008, 11:49 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message news:MPG.2272ccf1d0ee0fa69897b1@news.tesco.net... Quote:In article <6c873$48087489$c4cf20d$6749@DIALUPUSA.NET>, mrapol@isp.com says... "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vKqdnVgaoZW0kpXV4p2dnAA@rcn.net... What does Jekyll and Hyde have that makes it a horror movie? Rather, what does it have that Silence of the Lambs does not have? Both feature monstrous serial killers, psychopathic rage, women in peril, etc. etc. -- Bill Anderson Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. Is it supernatural though? Dr Jekyll takes a drug which has mind- altering powers, which could be science fiction, but the supernatural I associate with ghosts, werewolves, vampires and so forth. Anyway, how would you classify something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which doesn't have a supernatural element? That's what the slash in supernatural/science fiction is ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 18, 2008, 11:44 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Howard Brazee" wrote: Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. But both have horror. Was Hannibal Lector realistic? There have been any number of cannibalistic serial killers in history, so the short answer is yes, Lector is realistic. I make a distinction between "horror," a reaction of revulsion, and "horror movie," which has a traditional scope and subject matter. PBT | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 11:33 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 18, 11:30 am, David Oberman wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. If SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, then APOCALYPSE NOW. ("The horror... the horror...") I don't understand this requirement of supernaturalism and/or science fiction in a horror film. Is this something new to movies? There were literary discussions of horror that defined it differently by, among others, Dr. Johnson, Wordsworth, Hoffmann, & Freud, & the supernatural was considered only a subset of all horror (see Lovecraft's "Supernatural Horror in Literature"). I agree with Wayne Booth that horror isn't really a genre at all -- it's an emotion -- & that it can be found just as readily in a police story as in a Christmas morality tale. The singular, overwhelming emotion we vie... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 11:16 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 18, 1:01 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: On Apr 17, 11:09 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: David Oberman wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Being an old-fashioned curmudgeon, I prefer to distinguish between classic horror and more modern slasher flicks. There's a psychological tension in what I think of the true horror film that is lacking in a good over-sexed teens spending the night in a mansion without an electric light switch. Someone may have a more recent candidate but the last horror film per se that comes to my mind just now is _The Inn... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: David Oberman at April 18, 2008, 10:32 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Paul B. Thompson" wrote: Quote:Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. Well, it isn't exactly Nancy Drew Meets Encyclopedia Brown. ____ At the following performance of TRISTAN, more mayhem ensued; as an eyewitness reported on the Web site Parterre Box, a mat on which Lehman was lying in Act III suddenly coasted down the raked stage, sending him "sliding like a toboggan, headfirst upside down, right into the prompter’s box." -- Alex Ross The New Yorker http://snipurl.com/24n1b | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Oberman at April 18, 2008, 10:30 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. If SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, then APOCALYPSE NOW. ("The horror... the horror...") I don't understand this requirement of supernaturalism and/or science fiction in a horror film. Is this something new to movies? There were literary discussions of horror that defined it differently by, among others, Dr. Johnson, Wordsworth, Hoffmann, & Freud, & the supernatural was considered only a subset of all horror (see Lovecraft's "Supernatural Horror in Literature"). I agree with Wayne Booth that horror isn't really a genre at all -- it's an emotion -- & that it can be found just as readily in a police story as in a Christmas morality tale. The singular, overwhelming emotion we viewers have when watching LAMBS is horror, no... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Halmyre at April 18, 2008, 10:24 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | In article <gc3h04lu4plgmqmkinch4qi11hrtus0krq@4ax.com>, howard@brazee.net says... Quote:On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:19:26 -0700, David Oberman <doberman@etc. wrote: Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Is Lector's putting on a face realistic? (I know the character in general isn't). Pretty implausible I think. -- Halmyre That's you that is. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Halmyre at April 18, 2008, 10:20 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | In article <6c873$48087489$c4cf20d$6749@DIALUPUSA.NET>, mrapol@isp.com says... Quote:"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vKqdnVgaoZW0kpXV4p2dnAA@rcn.net... What does Jekyll and Hyde have that makes it a horror movie? Rather, what does it have that Silence of the Lambs does not have? Both feature monstrous serial killers, psychopathic rage, women in peril, etc. etc. -- Bill Anderson Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. Is it supernatural though? Dr Jekyll takes a drug which has mind- altering powers, which could be science fiction, but the supernatural I associate with ghosts, werewolves, vampires and so forth. Anyway, how would you classify something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which doesn't have a supernatural element? -- Halmyre That's you that is. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at April 18, 2008, 7:02 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:19:26 -0700, David Oberman wrote: Quote:Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Is Lector's putting on a face realistic? (I know the character in general isn't). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at April 18, 2008, 7:01 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:14:25 -0400, "Paul B. Thompson" wrote: Quote:Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. But both have horror. Was Hannibal Lector realistic? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 18, 2008, 5:18 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Derek Janssen" <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message news:h5UNj.9284$nT1.4306@trndny09... Quote:Howard Brazee wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:24:48 -0700 (PDT), lenona321@yahoo.com wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Or "Rosemary's Baby" (w/Ruth Gordon), for that matter? Derek Janssen ejanss1@verizon.net Good call--I would classify "Rosemary" as horror (the doings of Satan certainly qualify as supernatural). PBT | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Paul B. Thompson at April 18, 2008, 5:14 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vKqdnVgaoZW0kpXV4p2dnAA@rcn.net... Quote:What does Jekyll and Hyde have that makes it a horror movie? Rather, what does it have that Silence of the Lambs does not have? Both feature monstrous serial killers, psychopathic rage, women in peril, etc. etc. -- Bill Anderson Dr. J is horror because it hinges on a supernatural/science fictional premise. "Lambs" is simply about crime and detection. PBT | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Guest at April 18, 2008, 4:37 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | Quote:Or "Rosemary's Baby" (w/Ruth Gordon), for that matter? Derek Janssen ejan...@verizon.net Can't believe I forgot that one! I love Ruth Gordon. Had a drama teacher who was something like her, once - though I'm thinking more of "Harold and Maude." Given the premise of "Rosemary's Baby," I suppose most would prefer to call it a horror movie rather than a thriller. Lenona. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 3:39 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 17, 11:09 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Quote:David Oberman wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. Being an old-fashioned curmudgeon, I prefer to distinguish between classic horror and more modern slasher flicks. There's a psychological tension in what I think of the true horror film that is lacking in a good over-sexed teens spending the night in a mansion without an electric light switch. Someone may have a more recent candidate but the last horror film per se that comes to my mind just now is _The Innocents_. I agree that _Silence_ does not make the cut as a horror ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 3:31 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 17, 9:19 pm, David Oberman wrote: Quote:Howard Brazee wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? Define "horror movie". Does _Silence of the Lambs_ qualify? Nick says no, but I think it does. When you see that prison guard crucified, spread-eagled, that's horrifying! Sometimes, too, the horror is in the implied deed; & the subject matter of LAMBS is horrifying. If SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, then APOCALYPSE NOW. ("The horror... the horror...") -- - - - - - - - - YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at April 18, 2008, 3:29 am | | Topic: Oscars for acting in a horror movie? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 17, 11:02 pm, Bill Anderson wrote: Quote:nick wrote: On Apr 17, 7:41�pm, Bill Anderson wrote: lenona...@yahoo.com wrote: According to Thomas G. Aylesworth (in his 1972 book, "Monsters from the Movies") Fredric March was the only actor to win an Oscar for that. Have there been any more since him? According to Wikipedia, "The Silence of the Lambs is a 1991 Academy Award-winning psychological thriller/horror film." �Anthony Hopkins won the Oscar for best actor. It's not a horror movie.  It's a procedural thriller about the search for a killer.  I don't know  why Silence of the Lambs gets classed as a horror movie.  If you're going to stretch the definition of "horror" to include Anthony Hopkins performance in Silence of the Lambs, you may as well go a bit further and say the same for Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.  His performance is a lot closer to the Freddy/Jason/Michael Myers template (the walking, stalking unstoppable badass killer) than what Hopkins was doing in Silence of the L... | | Read Entire Entry |
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