| Posted by: xseanymacx at April 17, 2008, 6:39 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by UseYourIllusion If you get a PS3, you've got a Blu Ray and upconverter in one for a very affordable price, plus you can stream stuff from your computer to the system in HD. It's pretty fucking cool. I do this how? I want to get all my TV shows from my laptop onto my PS3 HD. Oh, and there is no war. Blu-Ray will eventually win out and IT IS far superior. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 17, 2008, 2:00 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Here Lynch is referencing to watching movies on your phone or your Ipod or Iphone. Obviously this is not the best way to experience a film at all. ANd I agree. You need a controlled environment. Your home, lights off, big screen tv. Not on the palm of your hand while you are on your lunch break or while your riding the bus. I think thats more or less what Lynch was talking about. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at April 17, 2008, 12:09 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey "Now if you're playing the movie on a telephone or on your computer, you will never in a trillion years experience the film. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated. It wil be a weak... you'll be experiencing weakness - an extreme putrefication of a potential experience in another world. So don't let your friends or some television advertisement trick you into accepting weakness. It's such a sadness; power in that world is critical. Everything has been worked on to be a certain way and if you don't have a set-up for your films, it's a joke; it's just the most sickening, horrifying joke. And this world is so troubled, and it's such sadness that you think you've seen a film on your fucking telephone. Get real." If I am reading this correctly he is saying that he believes that films should only be watched in the theater as that is the medium they are made for. So watching them on television is as bad or worse than watching them on a computer.... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: shoe1985 at April 17, 2008, 10:13 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey I really liked what David Lynch had to say about watching a film on your computer or on your portable video device or your cell phone...I pretty much agree with it: "Now if you're playing the movie on a telephone or on your computer, you will never in a trillion years experience the film. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated. It wil be a weak... you'll be experiencing weakness - an extreme putrefication of a potential experience in another world. So don't let your friends or some television advertisement trick you into accepting weakness. It's such a sadness; power in that world is critical. Everything has been worked on to be a certain way and if you don't have a set-up for your films, it's a joke; it's just the most sickening, horrifying joke. And this world is so troubled, and it's such sadness that you think you've seen a film on your fucking telephone. Get real." Amen Mr. Lynch! But you can just hook your computer up to your tv, an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 17, 2008, 9:47 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by shoe1985 I have a PS3, and I don't plan to buy another Blu Ray player for a long time. Anymore, I watch movies once and that is it. Also, look at the new Macbook, no drives installed because they feel that everything will become digital. You can buy external drives, but you would look funny carrying all these things around with you. So who will win out in the end? Digital because more and more people prefer sitting home and just using their computers. I have friends that wanted to go out every weekend to see the new movie at the theater, now they just buy digital movies online. The quality isn't great yet, but it never is early on. Technology is always improving. Look at Comcast, they are coming out with a service that they say will allow you to download an HD movie in 4 minutes. Imagine that. You could hit download, go to the bathroom, or maybe get some food and drinks before it is done downloading. I really liked what David Lynch had to say about watching a film on your computer... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: shoe1985 at April 17, 2008, 9:13 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I have a PS3, and I don't plan to buy another Blu Ray player for a long time. Anymore, I watch movies once and that is it. Also, look at the new Macbook, no drives installed because they feel that everything will become digital. You can buy external drives, but you would look funny carrying all these things around with you. So who will win out in the end? Digital because more and more people prefer sitting home and just using their computers. I have friends that wanted to go out every weekend to see the new movie at the theater, now they just buy digital movies online. The quality isn't great yet, but it never is early on. Technology is always improving. Look at Comcast, they are coming out with a service that they say will allow you to download an HD movie in 4 minutes. Imagine that. You could hit download, go to the bathroom, or maybe get some food and drinks before it is done downloading. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at April 17, 2008, 9:04 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I have heard this argument with DvD's took over for VHS, and when the CD took over vinyl. Everybody eventually succumbs when the price fits there comfort level. I have a couple HD televisions in my home and broadcast TV looks great, so I can only assume that HDDVDs are going to be just as nice. I am in no hurry at all to get a player, I play my disks on $30 DvD players . . . I am cheap when it comes to this kind of thing . . . . I will probably never have as many HDDVDs as I have regular DVDs partly because the number is way to high to replace each of them, and it is unnecessary as the new players will play old disks and also because I am still waiting for certain titles to come out on regular disk . . . can you imagine how long it will take to get some of these rare titles on HDDVD? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pride at April 17, 2008, 6:02 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I'm with the majority here; I'll wait for the prices to drop and in a few years start to buy Bluray here and there but I wont be replacing my collection. Personally I dont see that its such a big deal and its not really a "scam." At Sony they had Troy playing but it was split one side was normal DVD and the other side was Blu-ray. There was a difference but not one that would make me want to spend a grand on. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KcMsterpce at April 17, 2008, 2:25 am | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | "Debacle?" Silly. If you don't want the BD, you can still get DVD. No one's forcing you to switch. For those who are videophiles and have the technology to see the difference, it's far from a "debacle". It's like going VHS to DVD in quality improvement. It's not some scam to provide the customer with the same product at a higher price. People like me are hoping the price reduces, 'cause I'd love to be able to get more BDs. DVD still rocks, but if they were within three dollars of one another in price, I'd got BD 99% of the time. There have been like 25 threads on the exact same topic, but I find myself getting less and less descriptive with my reply. In two years, when a BD player is $100, it'll become more commonplace in households. People pissing and moaning about "I'm not going to replace my DVD collection," yadda yadda... same shit was argued over DVD replacing VHS. I'm not saying BD is going to be a winner format, and I also won't say it's "stupid" to stick with D... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Moviefan1234 at April 16, 2008, 11:05 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I'm in the process of converting my library over to Blu-ray as they are being released. It's only a matter of time before the studios stop releasing their films on standard DVD and exclusively on Blu-ray. I'll be ahead of the curve, and I suggest the rest of you do the same. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KiKrusher99 at April 16, 2008, 10:21 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I'm ready to embrace the technology but as of now there isn't a great enough incentive for me to make the switch (ie, I don't have the money). Right now the only reason for me to switch to Blue-Ray would be for new releases; i'll be honest, I want to see Daniel Day Lewis' drool shimmer as it drips from his mouth. But I mean, I really have no interest in upgrading the movies I already have. I've already seen Terminator 2 at the movies, on vhs, and DVD... seeing it at 1080 resolution doesn't really excite me. Also I consider myself more of cinephile... I'm much more interested in seeing movies i've never seen before, as opposed to seeing the same ones at a higher quality... and even now, there are plenty of good movies that haven't even found their way to DVD! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: UseYourIllusion at April 16, 2008, 9:05 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I think people need to chill on this Blu Ray/DVD "war". There really ISN'T a war at this point. Blu Ray is in ADDITION to DVD's, ala Laser Discs when VHS were around. Will the format win out? Most likely, because why the hell would people want something that isn't "top of the line"? It'll become affordable once more people switch over, but the format is still very much in its infancy, hence the high prices. Look at DVD's when they first came out. Is there a noticeable difference between Blu Ray and regular DVD? Hell yes there is. If you can't see that, you have GOT to be blind. More depth in the picture, a whole hell of a lot of more detail, and a much crisper picture is something that I want to enjoy my films in. It really is like looking through a window. Check out a film in proper 1080 and try to tell me that it doesn't look better then a DVD. Technology will only get GREATER with Blu Ray too. Plus, you can store so much fucking stuff on a Blu, DVD will just be obsolete in the future. ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ZMoney08 at April 16, 2008, 8:26 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | If you like your DVD's then you don't have to upgrade to Blue Ray. Just because there is another format out there doesn't mean you have to get all you old DVD's on Blue Ray now. You can still watch DVD's on a Blue Ray system so you can just buy new stuff on Blue Ray. I don't have a Blue Ray system and don't plan on getting one anytime soon. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Strider at April 16, 2008, 8:13 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | I don't give a shit about Blu-Ray. I'm very, very happy with my DVDs, and I have no intentions of ever upgrading. I'll only upgrade if they force me by stopping the release of DVDs -- and if that happens, they better fucking lower the prices for Blu-Ray players and DVDs, and the players better play regular DVDs as well, because I'm certainly not re-buying every single DVD I own. Strider | | Static Link |
| Posted by: JohnLocke2342 at April 16, 2008, 7:37 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey Its all connected. Cant help like feeling like all these companies are working in cahoots to squeeze more money from the consumers. Those fuckers are constantly scheming, to find new and apparently legit ways of milking us for all were worth. Hmm...how can we spice up the market? Lets create a new kind of TV where everyone will have to buy it! Lets call it high definition! Lets make dvds that are also high definition! Lets create a video player thats also high definition, now lets connect everything and sit back and watch the millions roll. My flat screen tv is fine, so is my dvd player. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if they deliberatley made dvd players low quality as well. so true... and soooo sad. Fuckers trying to make us spend as much money as possible. It's outrageous | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 16, 2008, 3:43 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by KyleG Not that big of a deal, the same thing happened when people had to switch from vhs to dvd Thats not a good comparison my friend. The change from VHS to DVD was drastic. You could see a clear difference between the two, you would have to be an idiot not to admit that DVD was vastly superior to VHS and that the change was something that was needed. I dont feel that way about DVDs. The change isnt that drastic except for maybe a slightly clearer picture. The changes from dvd to blue ray arent that evident...it feels like the same to me. It doesnt warrant a change of formats. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 16, 2008, 3:40 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by JohnLocke2342 The other thing I wanted to throw out real quick (sorry for double posting) is that a blu-ray player looks about the same as a dvd player on a tube tv. When you buy a flat screen, your dvds will look terrible, and youll want to switch over. Youll either want to buy an upconverter or just say fuck it and buy the blu-ray discs. It's not like blu-ray is coming in and trying to take over because it wants to knock out dvd.. no, no. Blu-ray is coming in because of the demand from the people. People wanted their dvds to look as good as their High definition cable did on their HDTVs... and regular dvds werent cutting it. They look grainy, and the audio is a bit poor. Nobody is forcing blu-ray onto people.. but now that tvs are switching to digital signals, and tube tvs will no longer work.. more people will buy new flat screen HDTVs.. meaning that more people will see that their dvds dont look as good as they used to.. meaning more people will want to buy blu-ray. Of course,... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 16, 2008, 3:34 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Cronos They'll probably force people to move over by stopping DVD releases... I remember reading a while ago (tried looking for the article but can't remember where it was) which went on about one or a number of studios deliberately putting out poor quality dvds of new releases, using single layer instead of dual, not even using the whole of the space available/only using half the available space on dual layer etc, so image differences between dvd/hd would be greater. Can't remember what it was but got a dvd (of a big hollywood movie) a while ago and it was just like that. Was an interesting article, annoyed I can't find it now. I have no intention on upgrading until they either start releasing movies that aren't on dvd (I'll throw out The Keep as an example) or solely on Blu Ray... and as long as I can continue playing my DVDs in the future I'm happy. This comment you just made is so true. Im not surprised they are making crappy dvds in order to make you feel like DVDs arent good... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: JohnLocke2342 at April 16, 2008, 2:55 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | The other thing I wanted to throw out real quick (sorry for double posting) is that a blu-ray player looks about the same as a dvd player on a tube tv. When you buy a flat screen, your dvds will look terrible, and youll want to switch over. Youll either want to buy an upconverter or just say fuck it and buy the blu-ray discs. It's not like blu-ray is coming in and trying to take over because it wants to knock out dvd.. no, no. Blu-ray is coming in because of the demand from the people. People wanted their dvds to look as good as their High definition cable did on their HDTVs... and regular dvds werent cutting it. They look grainy, and the audio is a bit poor. Nobody is forcing blu-ray onto people.. but now that tvs are switching to digital signals, and tube tvs will no longer work.. more people will buy new flat screen HDTVs.. meaning that more people will see that their dvds dont look as good as they used to.. meaning more people will want to buy blu-ray. Of course, that's jsut my opinion, and since I work ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Cronos at April 16, 2008, 2:49 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | They'll probably force people to move over by stopping DVD releases... I remember reading a while ago (tried looking for the article but can't remember where it was) which went on about one or a number of studios deliberately putting out poor quality dvds of new releases, using single layer instead of dual, not even using the whole of the space available/only using half the available space on dual layer etc, so image differences between dvd/hd would be greater. Can't remember what it was but got a dvd (of a big hollywood movie) a while ago and it was just like that. Was an interesting article, annoyed I can't find it now. I have no intention on upgrading until they either start releasing movies that aren't on dvd (I'll throw out The Keep as an example) or solely on Blu Ray... and as long as I can continue playing my DVDs in the future I'm happy. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: fooknasty at April 16, 2008, 2:42 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Yeah this is garbage. Anyone who goes out and buys a Blue Ray, IMO, is being suckered into something that isn't all that great. In all honesty, there is a better picture on BR, but like mentioned above, I don't need to spend $1,000's to see something a little bit clearer. It is the same when CD's came out. They had an article in Rolling Stone not to long ago that talked about the piss poor quality of a lot of CD's and mp3 files compared to the quality of records. The sounds you normally would have heard on records you can't hear on traditional CD's becuase producers nowadays crank up the bass. (i.e. you miss out on percussion, violinst, and other things you normally can't hear) I love DVD's, and I can't see myself ever switching over to BR becuase I have built up such an extensive collection of DVD's. IMO, there is not that big a difference in quality (yes I have seen a movie on BR). The only scenario I can see myself having to switch over is if the studios stop producing DVD's. If that's the case, God help ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: JohnLocke2342 at April 16, 2008, 2:42 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | right now blu-ray players are massively sold out and are in high demand. The movies have come down drastically, to where you can get them for around $10-19 on certain sales. It's exactly as DVD was.. expensive, but eventually affordable. What not many people seem to understand is that you don't have to switch to blu-ray. I have a blu-ray player, and over 1200 dvds.. and I only have 12 blu-ray discs. I have 2 movies that I bought over again in blu-ray, because of the insane quality (Pirates 1, 3). My dvds look even better then they do before in the blu-ray player.. Raiders of the Lost Ark looks incredible, and that was an 83 release. Even the original Star Wars films look great. I only buy blu-ray with the new movies that come out, or if it's something that will really look fantastic on blu-ray. Like.. Lord of the Rings, Pixar Films, Harry Potter films, 2001, etc.. I'm very happy with my blu-rays, but I still buy more dvds then I buy blu-ray discs. The last blu-ray movie I bought was No Country For Old Men, w... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Tweek at April 16, 2008, 2:27 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | You know... I was thinking of this a couple of days ago. I find it shitty that they're going to completely transfer over to DVD but I'm just going to cut down on my purchases. This means that there's basically another long while before I'm going to buy any of the Star Wars movies. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 16, 2008, 12:34 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Me too man, Im really happy getting great movies for less then 10 bucks. Even if they are used, they are usually in great conditions! Almost like new! So why bother? The thing that really bugs me though is that they would try and force us to buy blue ray by not producing dvds. That would royally suck! Eliminating a format, not because theres a genuinly better one, but just to force movie buffs to buy all their movies again. Fuck you ass holes! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: CosmicPuppet at April 16, 2008, 12:29 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Until Blu-Ray is the same price as DVDs, I don't give a shit. I'm happy with my DVDs. I go to Amoeba all the time and get cheap used DVDs and I love it. I'm not jerking off to the picture quality just because I can now see a mole on Tom Hanks' ass in Charlie Wilson's War. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at April 16, 2008, 12:20 pm | | Topic: How do you guys feel about this whole BlueRay/DVD debacle? Forum: JoBlo | | Im of the school that thinks that this whole Blue Ray thing is just a scam to get us to buy all our films all over again so the studios can make more money. This new format seems forced to me, it feels like it is genuinly unfair to have people build up their movie collections on what is still a great format that serves all our movie watching needs...only to the have a new format emerge without any real need for it. I mean honestly...werent they selling dvds as having perfect picture and sound? Suddenly, no, dvds arent that great, now Blue Ray is the "look and feel of perfect"? Please, stop trying to scam me. How long before they decide to jam an even more perfect (is there something better then perfect?) format and you have to buy all your films all over again? How long before Blue Ray is left behind and then they come up with something different but the same? I mean I could understand the change between VHS and DVD. DVDs were clearly better. You didnt have to worry about the tape getting jammed in... | | Read Entire Entry |
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