| Posted by: bigred760 at October 25, 2006, 1:07 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Crazy Dud Absolutely true! The first was mixed. It was visually stunnding, but lacked solid story and did not have the Star Trek feel whatsoever. 5/10 The second is the most well written and acted and is considered by many to be the best of the bunch. 8/10 The third has both moments of brilliance and moments of crapiness. 6/10 The fourth is funny and gives all the characters fun stuff to do. 8/10 The fifth is the worst. It is horrible on every conceivable level. 2/10 The sixth is a great sendoff to the series. 8/10 I agree on all counts; it seemed that II, IV, and IV took all the good stuff from the previous installment and built upon it while leaving all the crap out. It is kind of funny that it turned out that way. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at October 24, 2006, 8:04 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Derek237 This was the only Star Trek movie I've ever seen. I have no basis for comparison, but I found it enjoyable, and suprisingly funny at moments. I've heard that for some reason the even-numbered Star Trek films turn out to be the best (II, IV, VI, etc.). This true, or what? Absolutely true! The first was mixed. It was visually stunnding, but lacked solid story and did not have the Star Trek feel whatsoever. 5/10 The second is the most well written and acted and is considered by many to be the best of the bunch. 8/10 The third has both moments of brilliance and moments of crapiness. 6/10 The fourth is funny and gives all the characters fun stuff to do. 8/10 The fifth is the worst. It is horrible on every conceivable level. 2/10 The sixth is a great sendoff to the series. 8/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Derek237 at October 24, 2006, 7:17 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | This was the only Star Trek movie I've ever seen. I have no basis for comparison, but I found it enjoyable, and suprisingly funny at moments. I've heard that for some reason the even-numbered Star Trek films turn out to be the best (II, IV, VI, etc.). This true, or what? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Badbird at October 23, 2006, 12:19 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Something I find funny about this movie (kinda) is that Kim Catrel must have made Split Second right after filming this one because she still has her fucked up Vulcan hairdo. I think they may have tried to pass it off as some futuristic shit (Ha! That future world of London 2009 is a mear three years away!), but I knew better. Was that movie so cheap they couldn't afford a wig? Probably, since they couldn't get Rutger Hauer a real gun either (I'm not kidding. His big ass revolver is actually a pellet gun). Anyway, like I said. Star Trek VI kicks ass. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at September 18, 2006, 6:58 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | It was indeed a GREAT battle scene. But it was not, IMO, the ultimate battle scene for the original crew. There were two that I can think of that were better. Their battle with Khan at the end of Wrath of Khan, and when they battle with Christopher Lloyd's Klingon character and Kirk is forced to self destruct and destroy the Enterprise. IMO, those battles were even more intense and challenging for them. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at September 18, 2006, 4:40 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 Hell yeah man, I almost forgot about that; I loved that about his character too! It added a nice touch to the fight scenes - him screaming "CRY HAVOC!!!! AND LET LOOSE THE HOUNDS OF WAR!" Great sequence!! Plus that shot of the camera zooming into Kirk as the "heat-seeking" torpedo was ready and he says "Fire." Was so cool. Followed by Sulu going "Target that explosion and fire!" Such a good space battle with some great delivery of lines. I completely agree! The lines are delivered well, with good pacing and shot composition to compliment them. It is, in a way, the ultimate space battle for the original Trek crew, which is exactly what it needed to be, as it would be their last. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at September 17, 2006, 9:30 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by ElderPredator Hell no bigred, Plummer was absolutely fantastic as General Chang. I love how he continued quoting Shakespeare during the final space battle. Awesome! I'm such a nerd. Hell yeah man, I almost forgot about that; I loved that about his character too! It added a nice touch to the fight scenes - him screaming "CRY HAVOC!!!! AND LET LOOSE THE HOUNDS OF WAR!" Great sequence!! Plus that shot of the camera zooming into Kirk as the "heat-seeking" torpedo was ready and he says "Fire." Was so cool. Followed by Sulu going "Target that explosion and fire!" Such a good space battle with some great delivery of lines. Or was it "Dogs of war!!" Not sure - not that familiar with Shakespeare - at least not with Julius Caesar. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ElderPredator at September 17, 2006, 8:52 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 And is it just me, or does Christopher Plummer kick ass as a Klingon?
Hell no bigred, Plummer was absolutely fantastic as General Chang. I love how he continued quoting Shakespeare during the final space battle. Awesome! I'm such a nerd. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at September 17, 2006, 3:13 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | An excellent conclusion to the Star Trek saga featuring the original crew. The movie features plenty of twists and turns, an awesome space battle, and Captain Kirk and Spock, et. al doing what they do best - winning!!! And is it just me, or does Christopher Plummer kick ass as a Klingon? A great sci-fi action movie!! 8/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ElderPredator at September 15, 2006, 9:59 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | I actually consider "The Undiscovered Country" to be the best Star Trek featuring the original crew by far. It gets a clear 9/10 from me! I love Star Trek and I always will! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at September 12, 2006, 11:43 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by ilovemovies I love Star Wars but to I will ALWAYS prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Well, when it comes to Kirk and co. and The Next Generation crew. I don't care for the other Trek crews. I never liked DS9 or Voyager and especially Enterprise. But the original and TNG crew are better than Star Wars. One thing I can definitely say about Star Trek is that it tends to have characters that feel much more real. Kirk and Spock are simply more complex human beings than Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at September 12, 2006, 11:00 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | I love Star Wars but to I will ALWAYS prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Well, when it comes to Kirk and co. and The Next Generation crew. I don't care for the other Trek crews. I never liked DS9 or Voyager and especially Enterprise. But the original and TNG crew are better than Star Wars. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at September 12, 2006, 4:19 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by SinisterMinistr It was just an inappropriate use of the forum and space......just useless. but you have fun with your 6 different threads now that they're moved and I will never return to this stupid topic again. PS: May The Force Be With You. TREK SUCKS GET OVER IT AND GROW UP! Trek does not suck. In fact, it is, in many ways, more intelligent than Star Wars (although I still prefer the latter). Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they won't back it up! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SinisterMinistr at September 11, 2006, 9:57 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by robk Jesus Christ, you guys are worse than those on IMDB. I've posted my own reviews on this section of the board before. Hell, I've even had threads moved to other sections of the board. If you don't like messages cluttering up 'your' board, then don't read them for god sake! It was just an inappropriate use of the forum and space......just useless. but you have fun with your 6 different threads now that they're moved and I will never return to this stupid topic again. PS: May The Force Be With You. TREK SUCKS | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at September 10, 2006, 7:51 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by robk Not to sound nitpicky, but you mean CHANG, don't you? KANG was Kirk's Klingon nemesis in the great "Day of the Dove" episode. You are correct! *hangs his head in shame* How dare a Trek fan like myself make such a mistake! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at September 10, 2006, 5:57 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Good movie a nice send off for the original Trek crew. I like that this movie really forces Kirk to look at his own prejudices towards the Klingon race. The action sequences, especially the climatic battle sequences between the Enterprise and the Klingon bird of prey, are spectacular and awsome. Christopher Plummer, while not quite as good as Ricardo Maltaban, is nevertheless very effective as the main villian. Kim Cattrall is also quite good. Overall, solid movie. *** out of **** B+ 7/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: robk at September 10, 2006, 4:40 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by Crazy Dud Kang is simply an awesome character in this film. He exudes hate and arrogance to the point where you can't wait to see his eventual demise!
Not to sound nitpicky, but you mean CHANG, don't you? KANG was Kirk's Klingon nemesis in the great "Day of the Dove" episode. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crazy Dud at September 10, 2006, 4:42 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | I agree with robk, mostly. If you people can't handle some Star Trek clutter on the boards, then I hate to see how you react to the truly annoying things in life. However, it would probably have been best to put this in one thread, because then people like me could simply most my reviews for all the films in one thread. It's simply more user friendly, IMHO. SPOILERS AHEAD! Anyway, this is another great one . . . 8/10. The story is intriguing, the characters are all pretty well fleshed out, and, most importantly, it serves as an effective bridge between the original series and TNG. The themes on racial tensions and the conflicts that arise from it are also, unfortunately, timeless. These are issues in real life that will probably never go away, and the film handles the subject matter in true superb sci-fi fashion. Kang is simply an awesome character in this film. He exudes hate and arrogance to the point where you can't wait to see his eventual demise! I also liked all the winks to traditional elements that h... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: robk at September 9, 2006, 11:26 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by SinisterMinistr YEAH, kind of a Dick move if you ask me......and YES, I know that no one did...........dick.
Jesus Christ, you guys are worse than those on IMDB. I've posted my own reviews on this section of the board before. Hell, I've even had threads moved to other sections of the board. If you don't like messages cluttering up 'your' board, then don't read them for god sake! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KcMsterpce at September 9, 2006, 3:47 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Badbird Is it any worse than the "one-star, two-star, three-star, four-star movies of 1996" threads that fill up the Best/Worst/Favorite thread? Hardly. Hm... thanks for that reference... that's exactly one of the reasons I hardly ever check out that section of the forums... I'm sick of the repetitive thread titles/topics! And once again, I really think this would have been BEST as ONE thread, but a few things would have happened then: First, there wouldn't be as high of a post count. Second, there wouldn't be as much attention put to the thread(s) Third, it might have been overlooked, which would have hampered reasons (two) and (three). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Badbird at September 9, 2006, 2:25 am | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by KcMsterpce Jesus Christ, do we REALLY need a thread for every single one of these movies? How about consolidating all of them into one thread so it's not filling up the entire threads list. Awesome. Is it any worse than the "one-star, two-star, three-star, four-star movies of 1996" threads that fill up the Best/Worst/Favorite thread? Hardly. Part 6 is easily my favorite of the bunch. Complex plot. Awesome ship to ship battle. And a great way to "end" the series. A few years ago a theater here played the first nine movies before Nemesis opened and Star Trek VI was the only one I bothered to see. Though a bit heavy on the Shakespeare refrences. A couple hundred years in the future and man kind has yet to do any better than that guy? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KcMsterpce at September 8, 2006, 1:57 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | Jesus Christ, do we REALLY need a thread for every single one of these movies? How about consolidating all of them into one thread so it's not filling up the entire threads list. Awesome. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: robk at September 8, 2006, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Forum: JoBlo | | WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!!! After the fiasco of the last film, our crew was back to form here. Although it was(and still is) emphasized as the final mission for the original crew, one thing about it that I've liked is that, while a few years have passed since number four(Sulu says that he's commanded the Excelsior for three years when the films opens) it serves as an epilogue of sorts to the "Space Seed"-II-III-IV storyline, with moments from those installments mentioned throughout the film and becoming focal points for what occurs here. One of which is Kirk's initial racism for Klingons, due, naturally, to Klingons taking his son from him in number three; an event which the Klingon General Chang attempts to exploits for all it's worth. Chang, of course, is wonderfully played by Christopher Plummer. Many have said that he's Trek's best villain along with Khan, and I can see why. What I enjoy here is how Chang has different motivations from Khan. He's studied, and even admired, Kirk, which is why he'... | | Read Entire Entry |
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