| Posted by: Avoid normal situations. at March 14, 2008, 2:30 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote: [..] Quote:Suddenly, I am reminded of the two versions of _Invaders from Mars_ -- William Cameron Menzies's 1953 original and Tobe Hooper's 1986 reworking. Frankly I am hard pressed to say that I definitely prefer one to the other; both have their charms. And I thought I was the only one who felt that way. I always figured seeing the remake first had something to do with it. -- alt.flame Special Forces "We want a President who has to be carried screaming and kicking into the White House -- but will then do the best job he possibly can, so that he'll get time off for good behavior." -- An anonymous political commentator, Arthur C. Clarke's _Imperial Earth_ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Derek Janssen at March 13, 2008, 5:50 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Jared wrote: Quote:On Mar 13, 11:41 am, "Lookingglass" wrote: WOW! The original (American version, not British) is superior. I found nothing "charming" about the Hooper version. For all its flaws, the Menzies' version tells a compelling story...from a youngster's point of view. I saw it when I was about nine or ten years old...scared the beejeesus out of me. I watched the newest restoration and it is still a great movie. It is my favorite 50's Sci-Fi movie. The acting is naive...the sets are evocative...and the music is eerie!!! And though the stock footage is excessive and repetitive, I will take this version over ANY version...including future versions. For me, it is *iconic*. I didn't know there was a Hooper version, but I hate it already[*]. It was the 80's Golan/Globus "Trying desperately for A-movie status" one. Quote:* unless it should happen to feature naked space vampires. ....Yes. THAT 80's Golan/Globus. -_- (Since we weren't into cult movies as much back then, we were *just finding out* that the 50... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: RogerM at March 13, 2008, 2:28 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Quote: Suddenly, I am reminded of the two versions of _Invaders from Mars_ -- William Cameron Menzies's 1953 original and Tobe Hooper's 1986 reworking. Frankly I am hard pressed to say that I definitely prefer one to the other; both have their charms. I liked the remake. Never saw the original. -- | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Magnus, Robot Fighter at March 12, 2008, 10:56 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:32:18 -0700, Anim8rFSK wrote: Quote:In article wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:01:32 -0400, Bill Steele wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? How about "Mars Attacks," where a mistranslation starts a war? I was under the impression the Martians always intended to roast the humans. Who knows what the krell that storyline was; we're talking people that built the spaceship sets without deciding what technique they were going to use to animate the Martians, and wrote an entire script based on trading cards without turning them over AND FINDING OUT THERE WAS A STORY ON THE BACKSIDE ALREADY. HAhhaha! Well, at least Lisa Marie looked good. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Avoid normal situations. at March 12, 2008, 8:56 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Jim Beaver wrote: Quote:"Howard Brazee" wrote: The most well-known line in all of science fiction, the one vast numbers of people from nine to ninety will recognize, is "E.T. phone home." Could be. But more people have seen Star Wars. More people saw the 1977 Super Bowl. But quote a line from it. "Those 22 schmoes are really boring." -- alt.flame Special Forces "We want a President who has to be carried screaming and kicking into the White House -- but will then do the best job he possibly can, so that he'll get time off for good behavior." -- An anonymous political commentator, Arthur C. Clarke's _Imperial Earth_ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lookingglass at March 12, 2008, 7:41 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <frajm@blarg.net> wrote Quote: Suddenly, I am reminded of the two versions of _Invaders from Mars_ -- William Cameron Menzies's 1953 original and Tobe Hooper's 1986 reworking. Frankly I am hard pressed to say that I definitely prefer one to the other; both have their charms. WOW! The original (American version, not British) is superior. I found nothing "charming" about the Hooper version. For all its flaws, the Menzies' version tells a compelling story...from a youngster's point of view. I saw it when I was about nine or ten years old...scared the beejeesus out of me. I watched the newest restoration and it is still a great movie. It is my favorite 50's Sci-Fi movie. The acting is naive...the sets are evocative...and the music is eerie!!! And though the stock footage is excessive and repetitive, I will take this version over ANY version...including future versions. For me, it is *iconic*. www.Shemakhan.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Anim8rFSK at March 12, 2008, 6:32 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:01:32 -0400, Bill Steele wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? How about "Mars Attacks," where a mistranslation starts a war? I was under the impression the Martians always intended to roast the humans. Who knows what the krell that storyline was; we're talking people that built the spaceship sets without deciding what technique they were going to use to animate the Martians, and wrote an entire script based on trading cards without turning them over AND FINDING OUT THERE WAS A STORY ON THE BACKSIDE ALREADY. -- Star Trek 09: No Shat, No Show. http://www.disneysub.com/board/noshat.jpg | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jared at March 12, 2008, 5:48 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Mar 13, 11:41 am, "Lookingglass" wrote: Quote:WOW! The original (American version, not British) is superior. I found nothing "charming" about the Hooper version. For all its flaws, the Menzies' version tells a compelling story...from a youngster's point of view. I saw it when I was about nine or ten years old...scared the beejeesus out of me. I watched the newest restoration and it is still a great movie. It is my favorite 50's Sci-Fi movie. The acting is naive...the sets are evocative...and the music is eerie!!! And though the stock footage is excessive and repetitive, I will take this version over ANY version...including future versions. For me, it is *iconic*. I didn't know there was a Hooper version, but I hate it already[*]. I'm with you: the original was a very scary film to watch as a kid - I must watch it again. * unless it should happen to feature naked space vampires. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RogerM at March 12, 2008, 3:50 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Bill Steele wrote: Quote: In article wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? How about "Mars Attacks," where a mistranslation starts a war? What was the mistranslation? I STILL don't know why they attacked. -- | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at March 12, 2008, 3:49 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Magnus, Robot Fighter wrote: Quote:On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:01:32 -0400, Bill Steele wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? How about "Mars Attacks," where a mistranslation starts a war? I was under the impression the Martians always intended to roast the humans. Suddenly, I am reminded of the two versions of _Invaders from Mars_ -- William Cameron Menzies's 1953 original and Tobe Hooper's 1986 reworking. Frankly I am hard pressed to say that I definitely prefer one to the other; both have their charms. -- Frank in Seattle ____ Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney "Millennium hand and shrimp." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Magnus, Robot Fighter at March 12, 2008, 2:10 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:01:32 -0400, Bill Steele wrote: Quote:In article wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? How about "Mars Attacks," where a mistranslation starts a war? I was under the impression the Martians always intended to roast the humans. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: No Man at March 12, 2008, 12:25 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote: Quote:In spite of the elaborate sets by William Cameron Menzies, between incompetent direction and Talmadge's inexperience at a role requiring very demanding vocal acting, the film was a dismal failure. It was such a disaster of acting, dialogue, and sound that the film was an embarrassing flop. Yes, and movies must use shorthand. They cannot expect an audience to follow a failure of a film based upon incompetent direction and inexperienced vocal acting, but they can set up a stereotype, the Brooklyn accent. I wonder how much prejudice exists as the result of Hollywood shorthand? "Sometimes it helps, being thought a hoosier ..." Amarilla Slim, winner of the World Series of Poker and other pots. -- ubi dubium ibi libertas "Freedom is in Doubt" http://tremonius.blogspot.com/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: No Man at March 12, 2008, 12:16 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote: Quote:Instead, it was the dialogue in _His Glorious Night_, parodied in _Singin' in the Rain_, along with his growing alcoholism and his political problems at MGM that ruined his career. I don't know, but I read he was a pugnacious sort. It was said he'd wear a sidearm to Hollywood parties. Maybe he understood how dangerous, at least for a career, such assemblies could be. Many careers were sustained, and more scuttled, by those who were willing, in patriotic defense of their swimming pools, to name other participants to certain gatherings. -- ubi dubium ibi libertas "Freedom is in Doubt" http://tremonius.blogspot.com/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Opry phantom at March 12, 2008, 11:51 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Mar 11, 6:03 pm, Howard Brazee wrote: Quote:In article <fr68d701...@enews4.newsguy.com>, No Man <woes...@yahoo.com wrote: about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. << Hell's fire, what's that yankee yodelin'? Ah ain't never heard such hogwash. Seems tuh me, if ah recall correctly, it was fellers like senators Long and that Georgia feller that pointed out what a load of cow patties the Warren Report wuz. > p.s. The shrub is an Ivy League Yankee! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at March 12, 2008, 11:00 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | David Matthews wrote: Quote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? I don't whether Lina was modeled on a specific star but there is this in the IMDb Trivia section: "Like Lina Lamont, several actors lost their careers because their voices didn't match their silent-screen personality and they lost appeal. The most famous example is the silent star John Gilbert. However, it wasn't the sound of his voice that killed his career, it was back-office backstabbing and the ridiculously florid lines he had to say. The lines that Gene Kelly's character speaks in the "Duelling Cavalier" sequences are based on the sort of lines that killed John Gilbert's career." Just curious. What type of roles did Gilbert play in silent movies? I have heard Gilbert in a sound movie and there was nothing at all wrong with his voice, as a matter of fact it was rather pleasant and refine... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at March 12, 2008, 6:57 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:Baddies in these days usually speak precisely, with very little accent. Sort of a universal "Bilderberger". p.s. Choose your next witticism wisely... Of course, that quote was dubbed. We heard Michael Collins while we saw Gert Fröbe. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Anim8rFSK at March 12, 2008, 1:34 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:Bill Steele wrote: In article wrote: In article wrote: The most well-known line in all of science fiction, the one vast numbers of people from nine to ninety will recognize, is "E.T. phone home." Besides Star Wars, Frankenstein is science fiction, and arguably Dracula. I contend that ore people know "I don't drink,... blood". In that case, "It's alive!" But for most people today, "May the force be with you" and "Live long and prosper." I suspect that more people today are familiar with _Young Frankenstein_ than _Frankenstein_. Of course, the former quotes the latter and Gene Wilder's "It's alive" is pretty damn memorable. However, my personal choice would be: "He vould have an enormous schwanzstucker." Damn your eyes! -- Star Trek 09: No Shat, No Show. http://www.disneysub.com/board/noshat.jpg | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Matthews at March 11, 2008, 8:38 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Opry phantom" wrote: Quote:"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message news:howard-0D5C54.19034611032008@newsgroups.comcast.net... In article <fr68d701...@enews4.newsguy.com>, No Man <woes...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? I think of Peter pinned as a member of that outlaw gang because he was likewise from Galilee and "Thy speech betrayeth thee." Then there was Pygmallion/My Fair Lady. And here is Singing in the Rain, about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. The good guys virtually always speak the native language(s) with no accent whatsoever to betray them. Come to think of it, so do the bad guys. Well I think the bad guys often have English accents. Dave in Toronto << Baddies in these days usually speak precisely, with very little accent. Sort of a universal "Bilderberge... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: David Matthews at March 11, 2008, 8:23 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message news:howard-0D5C54.19034611032008@newsgroups.comcast.net... Quote:In article <fr68d701dq9@enews4.newsguy.com>, No Man <woesong@yahoo.com wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? I think of Peter pinned as a member of that outlaw gang because he was likewise from Galilee and "Thy speech betrayeth thee." Then there was Pygmallion/My Fair Lady. And here is Singing in the Rain, about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. The good guys virtually always speak the native language(s) with no accent whatsoever to betray them. Come to think of it, so do the bad guys. Well I think the bad guys often have English accents. Dave in Toronto | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Matthews at March 11, 2008, 8:18 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Quote:Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? I don't whether Lina was modeled on a specific star but there is this in the IMDb Trivia section: "Like Lina Lamont, several actors lost their careers because their voices didn't match their silent-screen personality and they lost appeal. The most famous example is the silent star John Gilbert. However, it wasn't the sound of his voice that killed his career, it was back-office backstabbing and the ridiculously florid lines he had to say. The lines that Gene Kelly's character speaks in the "Duelling Cavalier" sequences are based on the sort of lines that killed John Gilbert's career." -- Frank in Seattle ____ Just curious. What type of roles did Gilbert play in silent movies? I have heard Gilbert in a sound movie and there was nothing at all wrong with his voice, as a matter of fact it was rather pleasant and refi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at March 11, 2008, 8:03 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? I think of Peter pinned as a member of that outlaw gang because he was likewise from Galilee and "Thy speech betrayeth thee." Then there was Pygmallion/My Fair Lady. And here is Singing in the Rain, about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. The good guys virtually always speak the native language(s) with no accent whatsoever to betray them. Come to think of it, so do the bad guys. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Derek Janssen at March 11, 2008, 8:02 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote: Quote: Good call. This is from the Wiki article on Talmadge: "By the time Woman Disputed (1928) was released, the talking film revolution had begun, and Norma began taking voice lessons in preparation. She worked diligently with voice coaches for over a year so she could make her sound debut. Contrary to popular belief, she does not speak with a Brooklyn accent in sound films. Her first talkie, New York Nights (1929), showed that she could speak and act acceptably in talkies.[26] While her performance was good, the film was not. Norma tried a big, important film next, DuBarry, Woman of Passion (1930). In spite of the elaborate sets by William Cameron Menzies, between incompetent direction and Talmadge's inexperience at a role requiring very demanding vocal acting, the film was a dismal failure. It was such a disaster of acting, dialogue, and sound that the film was an embarrassing flop. Norma’s failure in DuBarry, Woman of Passion (1930]) inspired the hilarious character of the 192... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Derek Janssen at March 11, 2008, 7:57 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote: Quote: Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? I don't whether Lina was modeled on a specific star but there is this in the IMDb Trivia section: "Like Lina Lamont, several actors lost their careers because their voices didn't match their silent-screen personality and they lost appeal. The most famous example is the silent star John Gilbert. However, it wasn't the sound of his voice that killed his career, it was back-office backstabbing and the ridiculously florid lines he had to say. The lines that Gene Kelly's character speaks in the "Duelling Cavalier" sequences are based on the sort of lines that killed John Gilbert's career." The latest "Singin'" DVD even offers a clip of early-talkie John Gilbert, as evidence in context. Derek Janssen ejanss1@verizon.net | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at March 11, 2008, 7:44 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | David Johnston wrote: Quote:On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:06:28 -0700, David Oberman wrote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? Norma Talmadge, although unlike Lina, Norma wasn't an idiot. Good call. This is from the Wiki article on Talmadge: "By the time Woman Disputed (1928) was released, the talking film revolution had begun, and Norma began taking voice lessons in preparation. She worked diligently with voice coaches for over a year so she could make her sound debut. Contrary to popular belief, she does not speak with a Brooklyn accent in sound films. Her first talkie, New York Nights (1929), showed that she could speak and act acceptably in talkies.[26] While her performance was good, the film was not. Norma tried a big, important film next, DuBarry, Woman of Passion (1930). In spite of the elaborate sets by William Cameron Menzies, between incompetent dire... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: David Johnston at March 11, 2008, 7:26 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:06:28 -0700, David Oberman wrote: Quote:"David Matthews" wrote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? Norma Talmadge, although unlike Lina, Norma wasn't an idiot. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Matthews at March 11, 2008, 7:12 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? I don't whether Lina was modeled on a specific star but there is this in the IMDb Trivia section: "Like Lina Lamont, several actors lost their careers because their voices didn't match their silent-screen personality and they lost appeal. The most famous example is the silent star John Gilbert. However, it wasn't the sound of his voice that killed his career, it was back-office backstabbing and the ridiculously florid lines he had to say. The lines that Gene Kelly's character speaks in the "Duelling Cavalier" sequences are based on the sort of lines that killed John Gilbert's career." -- Frank in Seattle ____ One actor who had a lucrative career in silent movies and must of thought it was all over with the advent of sound was Andy Devine. Fortunately for us it wasn't. Dave in Toronto | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at March 11, 2008, 6:58 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | David Oberman wrote: Quote:"David Matthews" wrote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? I don't whether Lina was modeled on a specific star but there is this in the IMDb Trivia section: "Like Lina Lamont, several actors lost their careers because their voices didn't match their silent-screen personality and they lost appeal. The most famous example is the silent star John Gilbert. However, it wasn't the sound of his voice that killed his career, it was back-office backstabbing and the ridiculously florid lines he had to say. The lines that Gene Kelly's character speaks in the "Duelling Cavalier" sequences are based on the sort of lines that killed John Gilbert's career." -- Frank in Seattle ____ Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney "Millennium hand and shrimp." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Oberman at March 11, 2008, 5:06 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "David Matthews" wrote: Quote:Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? ____ Moritz is up to it again, this time confusing the cadenza with the credenza. -- Beethoven, 1804 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Opry phantom at March 11, 2008, 3:34 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Mar 11, 6:23 pm, "David Matthews" wrote: Quote:"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message news:howard-0D5C54.19034611032008@newsgroups.comcast.net... In article <fr68d701...@enews4.newsguy.com>, No Man <woes...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? I think of Peter pinned as a member of that outlaw gang because he was likewise from Galilee and "Thy speech betrayeth thee." Then there was Pygmallion/My Fair Lady. And here is Singing in the Rain, about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. The good guys virtually always speak the native language(s) with no accent whatsoever to betray them. Come to think of it, so do the bad guys. Well I think the bad guys often have English accents. Dave in Toronto << Baddies in these days usually speak precisely, with very little accent. Sort of ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Derek Janssen at March 11, 2008, 3:05 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Howard Brazee wrote: Quote:In article wrote: If Dracula is arguably science fiction, then _The Wizard of Oz_ is absolutely science fiction -- just think of the vital roles the science of meteorology and the physics of hot air ballooning play in the story. I find even more fun the argument that _Singing in the Rain_ is science fiction, showing the effect that new technology has on society. But if it's fiction about the dawn of a *past* new technology that's already taken hold in the real world, wouldn't that make it steampunk? Derek Janssen ejanss1@verizon.net | | Static Link |
| Posted by: David Matthews at March 11, 2008, 2:55 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | "Howard Brazee" wrote: If Dracula is arguably science fiction, then _The Wizard of Oz_ is absolutely science fiction -- just think of the vital roles the science of meteorology and the physics of hot air ballooning play in the story. I find even more fun the argument that _Singing in the Rain_ is science fiction, showing the effect that new technology has on society. Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Dave in Toronto | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Opry phantom at March 11, 2008, 2:52 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | On Mar 11, 5:44 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" wrote: Quote:David Johnston wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:06:28 -0700, David Oberman wrote: Not really fiction. Most of the incidents used for comic effect in _Singing in the Rain_ did actually happen in Hollywood with the advent of sound. Curious: Was Lina based on someone specific? Norma Talmadge, although unlike Lina, Norma wasn't an idiot. Good call. This is from the Wiki article on Talmadge: "By the time Woman Disputed (1928) was released, the talking film revolution had begun, and Norma began taking voice lessons in preparation. She worked diligently with voice coaches for over a year so she could make her sound debut. Contrary to popular belief, she does not speak with a Brooklyn accent in sound films. Her first talkie, New York Nights (1929), showed that she could speak and act acceptably in talkies.[26] While her performance was good, the film was not. Norma tried a big, important film next, DuBarry, Woman of Passion (1930). In spite of the elaborate sets by... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Frank R.A.J. Maloney at March 11, 2008, 1:18 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Bill Steele wrote: Quote:In article wrote: In article wrote: The most well-known line in all of science fiction, the one vast numbers of people from nine to ninety will recognize, is "E.T. phone home." Besides Star Wars, Frankenstein is science fiction, and arguably Dracula. I contend that ore people know "I don't drink,... blood". In that case, "It's alive!" But for most people today, "May the force be with you" and "Live long and prosper." I suspect that more people today are familiar with _Young Frankenstein_ than _Frankenstein_. Of course, the former quotes the latter and Gene Wilder's "It's alive" is pretty damn memorable. However, my personal choice would be: "He vould have an enormous schwanzstucker." -- Frank in Seattle ____ Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney "Millennium hand and shrimp." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bill Steele at March 11, 2008, 12:26 pm | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:In article wrote: The most well-known line in all of science fiction, the one vast numbers of people from nine to ninety will recognize, is "E.T. phone home." Besides Star Wars, Frankenstein is science fiction, and arguably Dracula. I contend that ore people know "I don't drink,... blood". In that case, "It's alive!" But for most people today, "May the force be with you" and "Live long and prosper." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: No Man at March 11, 2008, 10:27 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | Howard Brazee wrote: Quote:I find even more fun the argument that _Singing in the Rain_ is science fiction, showing the effect that new technology has on society. Is there somewhere hereabouts a list of movies in which mere diction governs fate? I think of Peter pinned as a member of that outlaw gang because he was likewise from Galilee and "Thy speech betrayeth thee." Then there was Pygmallion/My Fair Lady. And here is Singing in the Rain, about how a star had to be dubbed because she had too much Brooklyn in her voice. And then all those southern depitty flicks in which a quick signal of depravity is the yokel twang. Maybe I just taxed the taxonomy. -- ubi dubium ibi libertas "Freedom is in Doubt" http://tremonius.blogspot.com/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: No Man at March 11, 2008, 10:21 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | David Oberman wrote: Quote:Bill, I'd say it's also "social science fiction" -- specifically the psychology of dreams. And I always say, Oz represents for me the results of a failure of belief in dreams. You're on a magical mystery tour, and when you stop accepting it, you know what your consequence is? Kansas. Wasn't it the Bard's own Richard II who mused about the myth that your drink poisoned by a spider would be utterly harmless unless you knew it? His long self-pitying groan featured, "I have drunk and seen the spider." -- ubi dubium ibi libertas "Freedom is in Doubt" http://tremonius.blogspot.com/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Howard Brazee at March 11, 2008, 6:57 am | | Topic: Top Ten Movie Quotes from Science Fiction Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:If Dracula is arguably science fiction, then _The Wizard of Oz_ is absolutely science fiction -- just think of the vital roles the science of meteorology and the physics of hot air ballooning play in the story. I find even more fun the argument that _Singing in the Rain_ is science fiction, showing the effect that new technology has on society. | | Static Link |
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