| Posted by: mothersruin at January 17, 2008, 8:10 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by obiwan176) I bet there is no one here who is as fanatical about Batman as I am, and I gotta say the only good Batman film EVER made was Batman Begins. Burton made his own version and Schumacher was a retard. I cannot even watch any of the films that those 2 directors did. They really do suck. They have no business even using the name Batman. The way the character was portayed in Begins was spot on and Gordon was incredible. These are the characters as they are in the comics. The comics are not silly or even light hearted. And Nicholson was Nicholson dressed as the Joker, but the Joker he WAS NOT. I am really looking forward to this new film and today Nolan stated that the Joker has no story arc in the film. He just cuts through it and that Harvey Dent is the bachkbone of the story. I really dig that. And sorry if I offended anybody. But when I have been as attached to this character as I have been since '87, I feel really passionate about what is done with these characters. I just... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Darth Tater at January 16, 2008, 2:05 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | I enjoyed the Burton films at the time, but they haven't aged well with me - especially after the masterpiece that is Begins. Schumacher should be shot for his films. I haven't seen any of the animated versions. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: obiwan176 at January 16, 2008, 12:03 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by LadyShelley) I enjoyed the animated series (is it still on anywhere?). the art for it was well done and gave the series a comic book feel without the Adam West campy-ness. Which I think is the reason I don't care for the first series of movies that much; it tried to recreate the 1960's camp and be dark at the same time and it just didn't work; oh and that much neon should be against some rule somewhere! I second that motion..... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LadyShelley at January 15, 2008, 10:48 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | I enjoyed the animated series (is it still on anywhere?). the art for it was well done and gave the series a comic book feel without the Adam West campy-ness. Which I think is the reason I don't care for the first series of movies that much; it tried to recreate the 1960's camp and be dark at the same time and it just didn't work; oh and that much neon should be against some rule somewhere! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: obiwan176 at January 15, 2008, 8:40 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Being a HUGE Batman fan I can say that I loved Batman:The Animated Series. I still love it and own the DVD's. That show was as light hearted as you could get while still staying true to the character. I was not as happy with the reimagining of the series towards the end but still found Batman's character to be even more in character. Favorite episode was, I believe, Holiday Knights (if I remember right). Batman meets up with Gordon at the end of the year and you see that they do it every year to reflect on how things happen. Great episode. And the best character study of any Batman character was Mr. Freeze. He was, by far, my favorite character of the series. I absolutely love Batman: Subzero. That is a great flick for that series. I would love to see that version of Freeze in Nolan's movies using Patrick Stewart. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Volante at January 15, 2008, 8:26 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | So, I've got to ask, what's everyone's opinion of the animated Batman varieties? Compared to the comics, Burton, Schumacher, Nolan? (Maybe this Batman stuff goes in another thread, I dunno...seems on topic though) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LadyShelley at January 15, 2008, 7:43 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by obiwan176) And Nicholson was Nicholson dressed as the Joker, but the Joker he WAS NOT. Well this is true of any of Jack's roles. He's not really the character, he Jaaacckk in a different costume. I was OK with the first Batman movie and how Keaton played to role, I could care less about Jack's Joker. The second movie was just dumb. The third was again, OK and entertaining, and the fourth was a waste of everyone's time. (Wow, anyone else getting a Star Trek vibe?) Batman Begins was just pure bliss as far as a movie goes. Certainly the best Batman movie released to date. Dark Knight could give it a run for it's money; and how often can you say THAT about a sequel? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: obiwan176 at January 15, 2008, 4:33 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | I bet there is no one here who is as fanatical about Batman as I am, and I gotta say the only good Batman film EVER made was Batman Begins. Burton made his own version and Schumacher was a retard. I cannot even watch any of the films that those 2 directors did. They really do suck. They have no business even using the name Batman. The way the character was portayed in Begins was spot on and Gordon was incredible. These are the characters as they are in the comics. The comics are not silly or even light hearted. And Nicholson was Nicholson dressed as the Joker, but the Joker he WAS NOT. I am really looking forward to this new film and today Nolan stated that the Joker has no story arc in the film. He just cuts through it and that Harvey Dent is the bachkbone of the story. I really dig that. And sorry if I offended anybody. But when I have been as attached to this character as I have been since '87, I feel really passionate about what is done with these characters. I just don't trust Hollywood at all. Nolan I ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Volante at January 15, 2008, 1:06 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Batman Forever's a guilty pleasure of mine...but because I like watching Carrey and Lee Jones chew up the scenery. Not really for the movie. #4 didn't even have amusing villians going for it. I can be very forgiving if a movie simply entertains me on even a low wavelength... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mothersruin at January 13, 2008, 4:57 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah Burton's Batman was pure fantasy world, Shu--not sure he even knew what he was going for and Nolan has done it best so far. Big reason why I didn't enjoy the Spiderman series that much. Too over the top and childish for me. Might sound like a crazy thing to say since we're talking about superhero movies but I like where Nolan is taking the Batman franchise. It's very serious and disturbing. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at January 12, 2008, 5:00 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by mothersruin) Yeah I really like the messy face paint idea as well. One thing Nolan has done very well with the revamped Batman movies is effectively add realism, which is great. Agreed. And it definitely separates them from the Burton and Shumacher flicks. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at January 12, 2008, 2:21 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Evil Dead Junkie) I think you can dare. People have been calling it repulsive forever. I love that movie though. It's the love one has for an idiot stepchild true. But hey love is love right? Yeah, I'm gonna have to re-watch those Michael Keaton Bat flicks again. I haven't seen them since they were first released on VHS. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mothersruin at January 12, 2008, 1:43 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Into) I don't know...Ledger looks REALLY good in this. Might not be able to top the legendary Jack, but surely in this franchise reboot, and updated vision of the joker, I see it going pretty damn well. I like the messy face paint idea...seems more real. Ledger blew me away the first time I saw that trailer. Like I said before, I didn't think he had it in him for this to work..hopefully after the credits roll in July, he'll be able to carry it through the entire film. Yeah I really like the messy face paint idea as well. One thing Nolan has done very well with the revamped Batman movies is effectively add realism, which is great. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Evil Dead Junkie at January 12, 2008, 2:03 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | I think you can dare. People have been calling it repulsive forever. I love that movie though. It's the love one has for an idiot stepchild true. But hey love is love right? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at January 11, 2008, 10:18 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | Not that Nolan is planning on it...but if he ever put the Penguin in a sequel....the makeup would have to be a subtle look (or a slight penguin look).
The whole Batman Returns Penguin was just waaaay too much; it came off very cartoonish and even repulsive if I dare do say so. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Evil Dead Junkie at January 11, 2008, 3:36 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Three words, Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I think I remember reading an interview where Goyer said the penguin was basically going to be an arms dealer who dressed ****ing natty. PS. Am I the only one who thinks that Ledger's going for a bit of the old school Oldman, | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Matt at January 11, 2008, 2:36 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Chris Nolan's a genius. I'm glad he'd skip the Penguin and Robin. If he decided to do the Penguin, I wonder how he'd "make it real". | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Matt at January 11, 2008, 2:35 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Jack Nicholson is an amazing character and did a great job as the Joker. However, Ledger is THE Joker as defined by the comic books. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: GodNnelg at January 11, 2008, 2:24 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by mothersruin) I really don't believe Ledger will be that great as the Joker. Jack did it best. How do you top him? You have not seen the trailer in other words. Jack and Heath's two Jokers are actually very different interpretations. So in a way one is not better than the other. As to the quality of Heath Ledger's Joker.. this Joker has literally been the entire focus of everything released to the public from The Dark Knight and none of the other major actors and director himself have spoken any ill qualms about it. I think that much speaks for the quality. Quote: Originally Posted by redundo) Anyone thinking that they are not going to kill off the Joker by the end of this film? Are there any rumours of him being a return character in follow-up movies? And is there any decent quality online trailer for Dark Knight yet? Still in the middle of exams so no movies for me for a while yet. Here you go... check out Trailer #2, make sure to download rather than stream cause it'll likely ha... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: crappertay at January 11, 2008, 12:44 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Chris Nolan has Robin up there with Penguin as something he will never consider doing. He thinks they're both too silly for his "real-world" Batman. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at January 11, 2008, 12:41 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | That would be cool if they keep Joker more in line with the comic. I think they should eventually bring in Robin and then have the Joker kill him as it was written & drawn way back in the day. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: redundo at January 11, 2008, 7:00 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Anyone thinking that they are not going to kill off the Joker by the end of this film? Are there any rumours of him being a return character in follow-up movies? And is there any decent quality online trailer for Dark Knight yet? Still in the middle of exams so no movies for me for a while yet. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at January 11, 2008, 12:54 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | I don't know...Ledger looks REALLY good in this. Might not be able to top the legendary Jack, but surely in this franchise reboot, and updated vision of the joker, I see it going pretty damn well. I like the messy face paint idea...seems more real. Ledger blew me away the first time I saw that trailer. Like I said before, I didn't think he had it in him for this to work..hopefully after the credits roll in July, he'll be able to carry it through the entire film. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mothersruin at January 10, 2008, 3:27 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Saw this tonight at an I AM LEGEND press screening. Heath Ledger really is AMAZING as Joker. They weren't kidding. He's genius. The trailer as a whole is just so so though, feels like a bunch of images just randomly thrown together. I really don't believe Ledger will be that great as the Joker. Jack did it best. How do you top him? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhY sO seRIouS? at January 10, 2008, 12:45 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Cup of Jabba) Large screen and kickin' sound really does make a difference. damn right! i already booked my IMAX tix for the dark knight this summer! the more i see or read about dark knight, the more excited i get for it. i think the joker looks amazing, the batsuit looks great, i love the "wayne apartment" bit... even all of the viral and teaser aspects and movie posters are great!! http://www.fyrebug.com/displaygame.php?gameid=687 hyperhyperhyperhyper!!! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Darth Tater at December 18, 2007, 4:25 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by cavie95) Need some kleenex? I have plenty. heh Thanks cav, I'm good. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at December 18, 2007, 3:04 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | Quote: Originally Posted by Volante) If that's what you're looking for in film, there's plenty for you. But there's the rest that are just going on the entertainment value, and when I come up to a film, how I perceive it is based on where on the scale it falls. Theres entertainment value and then there is insulting my intelligence. I'm sure there are Uwe Boll fans out there that would give you the same excuse to you about why they love his movies. Quote: Originally Posted by Volante) Lifeboat? Reality. Terminator 2? Shiny explosions. I actually like the Terminator Trilogy. Quote: Originally Posted by Volante) Sounds more to me like you've let your imagination be stifled. I'm well aware Harry Potter's not an accurate portrayal of the world, but throwing off the shackles of reality keeps my brain active and creative.
Keep yourself grounded, and you'll never be able to soar. I like two of the Harry Potter films (One and Four). Oh, and I have plenty of imagination and love plenty of science fiction to prove ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: cavie95 at December 18, 2007, 1:33 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Darth Tater) I'm still cleaning up the mess.... Need some kleenex? I have plenty. heh | | Static Link |
| Posted by: crappertay at December 18, 2007, 1:29 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Michael Caine is a legend. Caine on Ledger playing a character previously inhabited by Jack Nicholson; Quote: Now we had Jack Nicholson, who is one of the greatest Jokers and one of the greatest characters in this kind of movie. I have worked with Jack and I know him really well. You do not really want to follow Jack into anything. Unless it's a nightclub. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Volante at December 18, 2007, 11:19 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: I guess, I try to look at film as "art imitating life". Well, if art it is imitating life... then shouldn't it be realistic or believable on some level? If that's what you're looking for in film, there's plenty for you. But there's the rest that are just going on the entertainment value, and when I come up to a film, how I perceive it is based on where on the scale it falls. Lifeboat? Reality. Terminator 2? Shiny explosions. Quote: That's because you have gotten more mature now and you are starting to realize that the world is really not like that. Sounds more to me like you've let your imagination be stifled. I'm well aware Harry Potter's not an accurate portrayal of the world, but throwing off the shackles of reality keeps my brain active and creative. Keep yourself grounded, and you'll never be able to soar. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at December 18, 2007, 11:14 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Alright, I seen the "Bats Trailer" before "I Am Legend" last night and I actually liked "The Trailer" a bit better. Large screen and kickin' sound really does make a difference. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at December 18, 2007, 11:07 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by GodNnelg) Cup of Jabba, I wonder if instead your tastes may have become more soured from disappointment instead.. Okay, granted there have been a lot of crumby remakes, sequels, & adaptations over the past few years. However, I did not become bitter (in any way) over them. I simply believe I look at movies now from a more realistic perspective than I used to (Not that every movie is going to be perfect remind you). I guess, I try to look at film as "art imitating life". Well, if art it is imitating life... then shouldn't it be realistic or believable on some level? In fact, I have re-watched certain movies I own in my own personal DVD collection... and I even look at some of them in a different (more non hollywood) light now. It's kind of like an old movie from your childhood you once thought was really, really awesome... and then now when you re-watched it today, you keep thinking to yourself... "Wow. How on Earth did I ever like that movie?" That's because you have gotten mo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 18, 2007, 1:02 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Murphy) Deleted For Extreme Grossness Glad I made it here after you edited that... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at December 18, 2007, 12:39 am | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Darth Tater) I came. That's exactly what I said outloud when the trailer was over in the theater. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at December 17, 2007, 9:14 pm | | Topic: Dark Knight trailer Forum: Film Hobbit | | Saw this in front of I Am Legend HOLY SHIT Heath Ledger looks amazing in this..not even something I'd ever have imagined him doing. Can't ****ing wait. And you wonder why they're marketing joker heavy.. | | Static Link |
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