| Posted by: Pwalex at February 4, 2008, 3:45 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | So I saw it again a couple weeks ago. This time Juno herself bothered me a lot more. I think the joke was old for me, and it wasn't the kind of joke that lasts. I still think that every other character was absolutely phenominal though, and Juno herself still has some really poingiant moments. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at January 6, 2008, 5:14 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I think most parents would react like what Lucy just related. The ones already in angst would appreciate such a parent who could be more forgiving (than condescending) and approach it with some humor. Besides, which child would you admonish with more passion about doing something stupid (like sex at 16 with no protection), an idiot, or a genius. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: masterthes at January 6, 2008, 4:40 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Saw it today, and after thinking it over, I'll agree with the consensus and say it did try a bit too hard, but still a great movie. Milo, you thought J.K. Simmons role was likable? I practically hated the guy. I thought he was being a bit too condescending towards Juno. Janney's character was much more likeable. And I thought the whole Juno/Bleeker pairing was well done. It was supposed to be awkward because that's kinda what love's supposed to be like. And they were friends to begin with. That throws a whole different dimension in there | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at January 4, 2008, 11:31 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | There's a million different ways to react/handle it. Their's was one, yours is another. If it helps at all, I think you've made the right decision to put it up for adoption. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lucy at January 4, 2008, 10:32 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | My friend dragged me to Juno tonight. She said it would be "good for me," because I too am 16 and pregnant. Although I'm only 12 weeks along, it has been fairly different than in the movie. Don't get me wrong, I actually liked the film a lot. But it doesn't seem to ring with my reality. First off, my parents were not cool like that when I dropped the bomb. It was more like an actual bomb being dropped. They're adjusting now, but things are still pretty weird. Secondly, I was not cool either. Juno didn't seem that traumatized by the whole thing. I cried for about four days. My boyfriend (the father) is still in shock and he was the first person I told. I am against abortion and even though I really really really don't want to do this, I'm carrying until term. I will also be giving up for adoption. We haven't found a family yet, but needless to say we're not search the ads in the paper for one. All in all it was a good movie. The acting was good and the dialogue was funny, but it just seemed a little unrealist... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Josh at December 30, 2007, 11:34 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Almost all of the Oscar contenders this year are waaaay overrated if you ask me. Even the fairly good ones like Juno. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at December 30, 2007, 10:02 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I can't believe it has such a high rating on RT. I mean, I wouldn't give it a bad review, but it definitely isn't 94% good. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Tutukov at December 30, 2007, 12:47 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Disappointing movie. I was hoping to like it but I didn't. Nothing real about it; it's quirky for the sake of being quirky. sorry | | Static Link |
| Posted by: garfield hates mondays at December 29, 2007, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah I thought the stuff with Jason Bateman and Jennifer Garner's characters were the highlights of the movie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Darth Tater at December 29, 2007, 8:09 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I don't know of any kid that talks like that, but hey - it's a movie! I don't know too many people that talk like they do in a Tarantino pic either, but I love the hell out of some of them too. I laughed, I almost cried.... I thought the couples were believable - especially the Bateman/Garner couple. I know couples like that (though the guy is the serious one and the gal is the 'flake'). I'm just glad they didn't go the perv route with Bateman...it was getting close there towards the end. I really liked how they started you off disliking Garner and liking Bateman and then changed it up at the end. My wife chooses two good ones in a row! 8.5/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: garfield hates mondays at December 29, 2007, 9:56 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I agree with everyone who said this movie was trying too hard. It was cute in parts and alright overall but I expected way better. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at December 29, 2007, 8:02 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | Quote: Originally Posted by Terminal1983) Uh.... no... ? You were supposed to say, "No, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It means
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." But that, of course, is only if you didn't prefer to keep it to yourself, which is your perfect right to do and I respect that 100%. No offense. I'd change the subject now if I had a subject to change. I know, back to the topic at hand. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Terminal1983 at December 29, 2007, 2:27 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Milo) Yes. (Does you screen name mean what I think it means?) Uh.... no... ? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at December 27, 2007, 4:15 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Murphy) Her dialog was on the scale of John McClane's stunts in Die Hard 4, just not nearly as fun. It was just way out there and in my opinion, impossible for a 16 year old to produce. I looked at her as being a prodigy, something most people rarely if ever see, which was the source of her wit and the reason for her being a self-made outcast. It was also the reason I felt hers was an unlikely mismatch, as I think she'd either find one of her own kind or settle for being a loner. Being bored and getting pregnant I could see, especially being 16, but not falling in love with him. I don't think you can be in love with someone not at least close to being on your own level, no matter how endearing they might be. Quote: Originally Posted by Terminal1983) I thought of it as a perfect antidote to the shit like "High School Musical" and "Gossip" we try to pass off as teen stories. I miss stuff like this. Yes. (Does you screen name mean what I think it means?) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Terminal1983 at December 27, 2007, 2:32 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I thought of it as a perfect antidote to the shit like "High School Musical" and "Gossip" we try to pass off as teen stories. I miss stuff like this. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at December 27, 2007, 1:58 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Her dialog was on the scale of John McClane's stunts in Die Hard 4, just not nearly as fun. It was just way out there and in my opinion, impossible for a 16 year old to produce. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: brassguy at December 26, 2007, 10:44 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Just saw this.... Ebert gave this #1 for the year? Wow. It was OK. Not great, not horrible. I'd never want to watch this again. Best movies of the year you should want to watch over again. I don't think that I could sit through this again. Uncomfortable at times.... I agree with Josh...script trying waaaay too hard. Some cringeworthy dialogue there that many in the audience laughed at. Juno is such an annoying character. A bitch to everyone for no reason. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: eandcdad at December 26, 2007, 7:37 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) To clarify... Diablo Cody is not in the movie. I know who she is. I was going pronoun crazy though and my intention was to say that Ellen Page (who is excellent) often says things written by Diablo Cody (whose script is very good) that sound fake but are saved by being hilarious. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at December 26, 2007, 5:48 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by eandcdad) I agree with Josh (maybe for the first time ever.) The overly cool dialogue did sound fake coming out of her mouth, but so does a lot of dialogue of all stripes in lots of very good movies. The fact that most of it was really, really funny made up for it. To clarify... Diablo Cody is not in the movie. She's the screenwriter. And we agree all the time. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 26, 2007, 5:23 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah, she looks like the type to go hipster-overboard too. I saw her at the film festival, and while everyone else was dressed in at least semi-nice attire, she was decked out in hipster drags. Not a real professional way to present herself... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 26, 2007, 5:23 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by eandcdad) I agree with Josh (maybe for the first time ever.) The overly cool dialogue did sound fake coming out of her mouth, but so does a lot of dialogue of all stripes in lots of very good movies. The fact that most of it was really, really funny made up for it. Yes, exactly! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: eandcdad at December 26, 2007, 5:22 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I agree with Josh (maybe for the first time ever.) The overly cool dialogue did sound fake coming out of her mouth, but so does a lot of dialogue of all stripes in lots of very good movies. The fact that most of it was really, really funny made up for it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at December 26, 2007, 5:00 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | Quote: Originally Posted by Pwalex) I just took the hipster pandering as a joke itself.
If I hadn't read her book I might have taken it that way myself, but after both the book and the movie it starts to become really obvious. Not that I don't like her. I really think she has something. I just wish she'd cut it out with the desperate quest to be cool already. She's a good writer and it just gets in her way. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 26, 2007, 3:43 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) I like it well enough, but I think the script tries waaaaaay too hard to be hip. The whole movie just screams hipster pandering over and over and over again. Same problem I had with Diablo Cody's book. I know what you mean. I think I could watch it and have it bother me, but I could also choose to ignore it. It's one of those close calls where, had the circumstances of when I watched it been slightly different, I might have hated it. I just took the hipster pandering as a joke itself, and it made my enjoyment of the movie a lot better. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at December 26, 2007, 2:40 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Perhaps you should try watching the entire movie before you decide whether the movie is interesting. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: psyche at December 26, 2007, 2:38 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I watched some of the movie detail in the entertainment new and Jennifer Garner acts as mom in this movie...Well I just want to see different Garner in this movie...And I think this movie is interesting because it shares a lot of lesson in life... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at December 26, 2007, 2:27 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I like it well enough, but I think the script tries waaaaaay too hard to be hip. The whole movie just screams hipster pandering over and over and over again. Same problem I had with Diablo Cody's book. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Svoboda at December 26, 2007, 2:20 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Page's character was ****ing annoying. She was trying way too hard for the first 3/4 of the film. It was cringe-worthy at points. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 26, 2007, 12:38 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah, I understand how that could happen Murphy, it's a shame. I went in with NO expectations, so I absolutely loved it. But I didn't really mind her dialogue. It wasn't too realistic, maybe, but it sets her apart from your "average teen"... especially the kind that gets knocked up... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at December 26, 2007, 10:22 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | Saw it last night. Sadly, I didn't really like it. I thought Juno was just annoying, I liked every other character, but I really would have preferred she just shut her mouth 90% of the time. Kids just don't talk like that, and it really bothered me. The only time I really started to enjoy it is when she turned into a human and got made at Bleaker for asking another girl out... After that it got interesting, to bad that happened in the last 20 minutes. I did like it, but it was a total let down because of my extremely high expectations, kind of like Bourne 3. 7/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: eandcdad at December 24, 2007, 10:48 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I thought Juno and Bleeker worked very well as a couple. They seemed very natural. She's obviously funny and very cool but a big time outcast. She's considered "weird" and although she's very pretty (this is a movie after all), she doesn't seem to have tons of friends besides Leah and Bleeker. She's an outsider and he's very nerdy (but also kind of a jock himself, he sets a school record in track!) They were great as a couple and made sense, to me. At first Bateman and Garner looked perfect together. Once you find out more about Bateman, you wonder how they got together, but mismatched couples and marriages are very, VERY common. He played the part well, he tried to be what she wanted him to be, he just saw the baby as locking him in. A very good, very funny movie. Ellen Page makes the movie work and the script is hilarious. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 21, 2007, 1:29 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | True, they didn't play into the jock thing, but they did kind of play into the typical dorky kid thing... at least he got laid though. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Ginsburg55 at December 21, 2007, 11:43 am | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | I didn't question the relationships .. While Ellen Page might be HOTTER than Michael Cera he did have an endearing character and she seemed like the kind of girl that would go for that instead of the usual jock.. which I was sooo glad they didnt play into | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pwalex at December 20, 2007, 12:41 pm | | Topic: Juno - Discuss It Forum: Film Hobbit | | no he doesn't, WK, sorry. Milo. it made sense to me. They pretty much peg her down as a pretty impulsive person. Maybe that was a little far fetched, but I didn't really question it at all. The chair was just funny, though. | | Static Link |
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