| Posted by: Beatrix Kiddo at May 31, 2008, 7:15 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by masterthes) I think a little bit from both columns, but mostly the latter. Anderson definitely left this open for different interpretations. I think a little of both is a good compromise. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Beatrix Kiddo at May 29, 2008, 1:37 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | You know what part always has me a little curious. The scene where H.W. sets the room on fire. We first see H.W. reading the diary (upside down I might add), then he sees a photo, almost immediately after he sets the fire. Now, we know H.W. is an orphan, has not had any education. Is it safe to assume he can't read? He only gets his formal education after Plainview sends him away. So does H.W. set the fire out of jealousy - OR - does he see/read something in the diary that proves Henry is a fraud. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: NotSoSecretAgent at May 19, 2008, 7:35 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | This movie is so ****ing incredible I can't believe I didn't just dream about it in my sleep. Two more weeks til the Blu-ray, so I can finally own it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at May 19, 2008, 6:01 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by dolph lundgren) I wonder if I'm the only one on this site that hated this movie. I put it on last night, got through about 80-90 minutes, and turned it off. Ban. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at April 14, 2008, 11:43 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah, the porn element to that movie definitely is what got people interested when it came out..I remember. Yes, the frog scene was the first thing I thought of when I thought about Anderson's other flicks. I really need to go back and watch that again. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at April 14, 2008, 4:05 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | I'm not a big fan of Boogie Nights. I think it gets a little extra enthusiasm bump from people just because it's about porn. I really like Magnolia though, it has some great individual moments and that final scene where they sing is transcendent. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at April 14, 2008, 2:34 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Oh absolutely. Actually, the main selling point to me was DDL..I haven't really been a fan of PT Anderson before now..hell, I can't even remember seeing Magnolia or Boogie Nights and I never saw Punch Drunk Love. Eh. Ok I take that back..I remember bits of Magnolia, and I definitely liked it, as ****ing weird as it was. Need to revisit that one. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at April 14, 2008, 2:27 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Into) Very enjoyable and engrossing..I can't believe I actually liked the damn thing this much..strange. I know what you mean. Even after I watched it and knew I liked it, I couldn't shake the feeling that somehow this movie should have been boring. With anyone else but DDL in the lead and PT Anderson directing, I'm pretty sure it would be. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Into at April 14, 2008, 2:26 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Finally sat down for this. I thought I was going to either hate it or be bored to death with it, and it's fanboyish reputation between PT Anderson and the whole "milkshake" running joke or whatever. I was wrong. I loved this flick. A lot of Kubrickian influence spiced with an AWESOME soundtrack and brilliant direction, mixed with a phenomenal performance of course from D-Day Lewis himself. Paul Dano was also excellent. Very enjoyable and engrossing..I can't believe I actually liked the damn thing this much..strange. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mothersruin at February 14, 2008, 2:25 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah it got a limited release in major cities. I happened to see it early on and thought it was great. With all this Oscar buzz you'd think it would be in more theatres. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at February 12, 2008, 6:21 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by cubitfox) It wasn't a somber ending for Daniel Plainview; he was filled with glee and joy when he defeated Sunday. Now he could live in peace, that was his intention from the first..... From his point of view, it was a happy ending..... That last "I'm finished" was a statement showing his relief and joy at finally being alone. I can only say that I profoundly disagree. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: cubitfox at February 11, 2008, 8:50 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | It wasn't a somber ending for Daniel Plainview; he was filled with glee and joy when he defeated Sunday. Now he could live in peace, that was his intention from the first. He told his fake brother that he wanted to get away from mankind, but he couldn't even do that in his big empty house after he alienated everyone. The only thing bothering him was Eli Sunday. When he defeated Sunday, he won. He could now live in peace. From his point of view, it was a happy ending. His soul was inflamed, not gouged out. He was a true sadist; he hated mankind, he never even worried about himself. He did not want to succeed, only see others fail. He saw the fragility and darkness within people, and hated them for being so inferior. That's why he liked his fake brother so much in the beginning of the relationship; he was apathetic and world-weary, he had no ambition. Daniel hated anyone with ambition (I.E. Sunday, and his son later in life). That last "I'm finished" was a statement showing his relief and joy at finally being ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Milo at February 11, 2008, 6:35 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by cubitfox) It wasn't really a greek tragedy considering there was no tragic ending for the main character. Ceaser was murdered, Oedipus Rex gouged his eyes out, and Antigone committed suicide. Daniel Plainview's life had a happy ending, he finally got what he wanted. This is just like A Clockwork Orange; often, the worst of people succeed in their goals. ****SPOILER**** His last words, the last words of the movie were, "I'm finished", which had an ironic double or triple meaning. He was of course finished with his meal, but his life was also finished since they hung people pretty quickly back then for murder. But even if he did get off, his reputation was finished as was his soul since he had effectively succeeded in hating himself to death. What good is financial success if you come to it in such a state, despising everyone as much as you disgust yourself. Some believe a classic tragedy is contingent on the death of the primary character(s). But as you pointed out, in Oedipus Rex,... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: cubitfox at February 11, 2008, 5:31 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | It wasn't really a greek tragedy considering there was no tragic ending for the main character. Ceaser was murdered, Oedipus Rex gouged his eyes out, and Antigone committed suicide. Daniel Plainview's life had a happy ending, he finally got what he wanted. This is just like A Clockwork Orange; often, the worst of people succeed in their goals. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bloggin at February 11, 2008, 12:48 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by mothersruin) I'm sure he was incredible but did he actually suffocate the film?? Daniel Day-Lewis' character is the movie. And has an incredible character to boot. There Will Be Blood is essentially a character study at its best. So no, no suffocation, unless you hate great acting that can carry an entire movie. Plus, to my knowledge, Day-Lewis has never suffocated a movie with his performances. Not sure why one would think that. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at February 11, 2008, 12:18 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by masterthes) I'm going to slightly disagree with you Milo on the whole Greek tragedy aspect, whereas it concerns Daniel. If anything, it's a tragedy for the characters surronding Daniel. Daniel doesn't really fit the mold of a tragic character. I failed to see him undergo any change or epiphany towards the end. The only mold necessary for the tragic "hero" is a fatal character flaw, whether he develops it, always had it, or overcame it too late. As da book say, "A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, a moral weakness, or an inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances." Oedipus Rex, perhaps the most famous Greek tragedy, has Oedipus' damnation revealed at the beginning by the prophecy of the Oracle at Delphi. On a semi-tangent, have you ever seen the 1962 film Phaedra based on another Greek tragedy starring Melina Mercouri (what did anyone ever see in her physically) and An... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: masterthes at February 10, 2008, 7:14 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Finally saw this! Yeah! Boy, was this unsettling, but it was good. D-Day was just brilliant. If he doesn't win Best Actor at Oscar, well shame on the Academy. Paul Dano was superb as well. How come he didn't get nominated for anything? (And couldn't the makeup people try to age him a bit for that last scene?) I'm going to slightly disagree with you Milo on the whole Greek tragedy aspect, whereas it concerns Daniel. If anything, it's a tragedy for the characters surronding Daniel. Daniel doesn't really fit the mold of a tragic character. I failed to see him undergo any change or epiphany towards the end. Okay, maybe he felt a bit of a remorse for losing his son, but not really. He's pretty much the same person he was at film's end that he was at the beginning | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Milo at February 10, 2008, 10:32 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | This is a classic Greek Tragedy (tragedy, from Gr.,=goat song :--maybe that explains the music) which has been a favorite vehicle for actors and playwrights ever since. It does often induce great performances, as in this case, but it also feeds the need for gratuitous voyeurism in the audience, watching (enjoying?) the tragic flaws in the powerful and influential play themselves out. And here we get two for the price of one with Daniel Plainview and Eli Sunday. I expect that it was an expression of Plainview's character as well as a political statement that he is made to say that he wants everyone else to fail. I don't think you need to look any further than to say that his fatal flaw is his self-hatred that he projects it on everyone else. Beyond that, it's all performance, and wondering if his latest erratic action was pertinent or just something to keep the plot moving. Casting Hans Howes to play Mr. Bandy was great. That face! And the scene between Plainview and him was a high point. I suppose it doesn't... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mack at February 3, 2008, 3:58 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Okay...I finally saw this... I liked it...kinda. I almost felt like it was a collection of brilliant individual scenes that didn't really work as a movie. Parts of it were great, and I'm really glad I saw it...but it just lacked a cohesive flow. Still, Daniel Day Lewis was brilliant, and I'd encourage everyone to see it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Patient Leech at January 29, 2008, 7:06 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Alright, this post might be best for those who have already seen the movie, but there aren't any specific spoilers per se. Where to start... Yeah, some of the music and directing reminded me a bit of Kubrick, particularly the very beginning of the film, but it's not a shameless rip off by any means. It's directed incredibly well. And the movie is pretty much carried by the acting of Daniel Day-Lewis and the other main actor, Paul Dano who played Paul and Eli. They were f*cking awesome. And they had sort of a yin/yang thing going on. They sort of mirrored one another which was really interesting. The movie is really quite grim because it's obviously showing the nihilism that results from the selfish attempts to profit from the oil. And it's an appropriate topic to explore the origins of. It started on a small scale, of course, but the issue has grown into an incredibly hideous monster in the present day. It has gotten much worse. We're not only ignoring problems it's causing domestically and to the rest of th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Starkonia at January 27, 2008, 9:23 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Great movie. D-Day not only gave a great performance, but was perfect for the role. Ending was great. I thoroughly enjoyed the style, acting, and especially the score during the entire movie. Hopefully it will be recognized at the Oscars. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: striderdemme at January 25, 2008, 9:06 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | If anyone's in the area, There Will be Blood is now showing at the Bijou in Chattanooga, TN. It should also be appearing soon at the Penn Cinema in Lititz, PA. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: cubitfox at January 22, 2008, 10:15 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by mothersruin) "does he suffocate the movie?". Yes, I think he does. Not one actor, not even the talented Dano, could hold their own. This is just another way of building Daniel Plainview as a character. He wants no one else to share in glory or riches, he wants to conquer all; not to appease himself, but out of sheer malice towards mankind. This is just testament to the jaw-dropping characterization in this film. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mothersruin at January 22, 2008, 5:28 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yes, it is very good. Just saw it last weekend. I am in agreement about Day Lewis' performance as well, it is astonishing. But getting back to my original quandry "does he suffocate the movie?". Yes, I think he does. Not one actor, not even the talented Dano, could hold their own. I'm not saying it was a bad film, it was a good film but I think the director let his lead get away from him. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: striderdemme at January 20, 2008, 11:36 am | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Patient Leech) Kubrick style?! Did someone say Kubrick?! Shit, I gotta see this! It's still not playing in my f*cking area! Yeah, There Will be Blood definitely has a dash of A Clockwork Orange thrown in. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: striderdemme at January 19, 2008, 1:33 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Last night I watched There Will be Blood in Knoxville. It's a powerful film in many areas, largely due to the stunning Daniel Day Lewis' stunning performance as Daniel Plainview. Paul Dano (Little Miss Sunshine) also shines as his rival in the film. There Will be Blood is a dark, intimate journey into the life of Plainview, though his fierce sense of competition. Directed by P.T. Anderson, this is a film that is unlike his previous work (Boogie Nights, Magnolia, etc.) in many ways, but the themes that he cares deeply about are still there. John Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood is as emotionally unsettling as the characters themselves, and really adds to the mood in the film. The music and certain scenes reminded me of Kubrick's style. 4.5/5 Stars | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at January 18, 2008, 9:33 pm | | Topic: There Will Be Blood - discuss it Forum: Film Hobbit | | Wow. Just... Wow. This IS the best film of 2007. God, it was amazing. Daniel-Day Lewis was... Oh man. There aren't words to describe his performance, I didn't know it was possible to act that well. Everything about the film was just perfect to me. This might very well have a spot on my top 10 of all time. 11/10 | | Static Link |
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