| Posted by: Barry Margolin at September 25, 2006, 11:02 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: || ||| |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| ||| ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || || Can you give one example of such a film? It is quite common to hear it sung on cruise liners and in restaraunts. So? The question was about the song being used in films set before the song was written. What does real-life singing have to do with that? -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bachillet at September 25, 2006, 10:55 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | "Gary Heston" wrote: Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || Can you give one example of such a film? Marilyn Monroe sung it. It's the time the film is being _made_ that matters, not the period the story line is set in. As she was born in 1926, she didn't sing anything in any movies before 1905. IIRC, she did sing it for President John F. Kennedy, but that was not in a movie, and the setting was not pre-1905. No, you missed the point. The period time the story is set in is relevant because it shows a time anomaly when a song copyrighted in 1935 is sung in 1200 AD in the Dark Ages. Now do you understand? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Kate at September 25, 2006, 4:32 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | videonovels@yahoo.com wrote: Quote:dgates was correct. When I said "set aside nostalgia", I meant "Pretend your seeing the movie for the very first time" without remembering the first time you kissed a girl and/or other fond memories. Set aside the nostalgia and judge the movie without bias. Me, having only seen the 1950s movies since 1995-onward, have no nostalgia. And I see them for what they truly are: JUST LIKE SCI-FI CHANNEL MOVIES. Some good stuff (like Dune), but mostly trash (like Ed Wood). (more below) Kate wrote: Going back to the LCD resolution question, it's my understanding that with an interlaced display, your eye is only seeing half the lines at one time anyway, so there is no actual loss of resolution when using the shutter glasses. I'm not a techie, so if someone has other information, please share it. Uh. (thinks) Without 3D you would see the Even lines, then the Odd lines, and they would merge into a single frame (mentally). So you see the full 480 lines resolution. In contrast, with 3D, yo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Avoid normal situations. at September 25, 2006, 2:59 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:David Oberman wrote: [..] Quote:By any stretch of cynicism, however justified, more fans and more widely available technology means more, and thus better, choices. How, in movies' earlier days, would films like PRIMER, FINDER'S FEE, or MELVIN GOES TO DINNER ever see daylight? I've never previously heard of _Finder's Fee_. What's so special about that one? -- alt.flame Special Forces "You recognize a federal agent, you find any here, you tell me. I'll have him locked up and he won't be turned loose 'til you say so." -- "Papa Doc" Duvalier, to Vincent Teresa | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 25, 2006, 1:57 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | videonovels@yahoo.com wrote: Quote:... Kate wrote: Going back to the LCD resolution question, it's my understanding that with an interlaced display, your eye is only seeing half the lines at one time anyway, so there is no actual loss of resolution when using the shutter glasses. I'm not a techie, so if someone has other information, please share it. Uh. (thinks) Without 3D you would see the Even lines, then the Odd lines, and they would merge into a single frame (mentally). So you see the full 480 lines resolution. In contrast, with 3D, you first see the Even/left image at 240 lines. Then you see the Odd/right image at 240 lines. The two images do NOT merge, because they are separate viewpoints from two separate cameras. ------ So you're only seeing 240 lines from each camera. Half the resolution. ... I don't know how it all shakes out subjectively (...and I'm not sure that anyone does, definitively). But, even though each eye sees a mere 240 lines, there is clearly more than 240 lines worth of information g... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: videonovels@yahoo.com at September 25, 2006, 1:33 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | dgates was correct. When I said "set aside nostalgia", I meant "Pretend your seeing the movie for the very first time" without remembering the first time you kissed a girl and/or other fond memories. Set aside the nostalgia and judge the movie without bias. Me, having only seen the 1950s movies since 1995-onward, have no nostalgia. And I see them for what they truly are: JUST LIKE SCI-FI CHANNEL MOVIES. Some good stuff (like Dune), but mostly trash (like Ed Wood). (more below) Kate wrote: Quote:Going back to the LCD resolution question, it's my understanding that with an interlaced display, your eye is only seeing half the lines at one time anyway, so there is no actual loss of resolution when using the shutter glasses. I'm not a techie, so if someone has other information, please share it. Uh. (thinks) Without 3D you would see the Even lines, then the Odd lines, and they would merge into a single frame (mentally). So you see the full 480 lines resolution. In contrast, with 3D, you first see the Even/left ima... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: videonovels@yahoo.com at September 25, 2006, 1:32 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Kate wrote: Quote: Both "Spy Kids 3D" and "Shark Boy and Lava Girl" were released in theaters as color red/blue movies. Spy Kids didn't really work on DVD on a small screen (lots of artifacts and stereo failure). .. I hate compression artifacts. I see them on almost every DVD I own, even across multiple players, and it's annoying. I wish they could find a way to NOT have compression on these video discs. .. moviePig wrote: Quote:Calvin wrote: moviePig wrote: The black car gets projected as red (at maximum red- luminance, i.e., equating to white) in the red image... I yield to your explanations, and declare myself to be a total idiot after all. It is interesting to have learned from this that comic book and magazine red/blue 3D, work in an opposite way than movie red/blue 3D, as you noted If it helps reduce the totality of your self-declared idiocy... I hadn't realized their opposite-ness until this discussion (drools on self) Wha....? This conversation exceeds my mental..... ooo look, a butterfly ;-) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Heynony at September 25, 2006, 3:10 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | dgates wrote: Quote:a falsely created memory There are still ample opportunities to test whether memory is false in the case of film. Many venues exist for seeing 16mm. films of the late teens through the 50s in a theatre setting, and a gross approximation can be achieved. In some cases, decent large prints can still be seen; and even discounting for the degradation of age, enough films hold together well enough for most viewers to conclude that there is something more than simply false memory going on here with an admiration of "classic" films. There were skills of lighting, production design, narrative, pacing, etc. which seem to have been lost forever. And the techniques of editing (which _have_ been well-learned by many post-60s film makers) are misused appallingly by most of that relatively talented subset. But with the SF films of the 50s I do have to admit: their link to the time is the major portion of their charm. On their own they do not constitute a quality body of work. Of course, they were not ju... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dgates at September 25, 2006, 2:47 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | On 19 Sep 2006 09:37:10 -0700, "Grendel" wrote: Quote: videonovels wrote: Set aside your nostalgia. What's wrong with nostalgia? I think that, by "nostalgia," he doesn't mean "a fondness for things from the past." He means "a falsely created memory that things in the past were better than they were." I suspect that everyone "suffers" from it, even if they can kind of also see that they're comparing unreasonably. I'm not getting into the 50s vs Sci-Fi channel debate; I just wanted to clear up what I think is the (intended) definition of "nostalgia." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Spasmo at September 24, 2006, 10:22 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:09:02 +0000, Gary Heston wrote: Quote:In article wrote: Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || Can you give one example of such a film? Marilyn Monroe sung it. It's the time the film is being _made_ that matters, not the period the story line is set in. The song was copyrighted in 1935, not 1905. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Gary Heston at September 24, 2006, 10:09 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || Can you give one example of such a film? Marilyn Monroe sung it. It's the time the film is being _made_ that matters, not the period the story line is set in. As she was born in 1926, she didn't sing anything in any movies before 1905. IIRC, she did sing it for President John F. Kennedy, but that was not in a movie, and the setting was not pre-1905. Gary -- Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/ Astronomers have developed a definition of "planet" which excludes Pluto. I'm developing a definition of "scientist" which excludes astronomers. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SPASMO at September 24, 2006, 9:56 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:17:39 +0000, Mad Dog wrote: Quote:Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: || ||| |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| ||| ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || || Can you give one example of such a film? Marilyn Monroe sung it. She sung it to JFK, not in a film set in time period prior to the 20th century. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mad Dog at September 24, 2006, 7:21 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: || ||| |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| ||| ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || || Can you give one example of such a film? It is quite common to hear it sung on cruise liners and in restaraunts. -- "A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mad Dog at September 24, 2006, 7:17 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Spasmo wrote: || On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: || ||| |||| Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is |||| copyrighted? ||| ||| ||| one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a ||| movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL || || Can you give one example of such a film? Marilyn Monroe sung it. -- "A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six months". MD | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Spasmo at September 24, 2006, 5:58 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:55:25 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote: Quote:In article wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is copyrighted? one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL Can you give one example of such a film? He probably can't. Because of the copyright issue, TV and movies often avoid singing "Happy Birthday" at all. You're more likely to hear "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow", which I don't think is encumbered. Are you calling Rufus a liar? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Dave in Toronto at September 24, 2006, 5:03 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Quote:Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is copyrighted? one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL Can you give one example of such a film? He probably can't. Because of the copyright issue, TV and movies often avoid singing "Happy Birthday" at all. You're more likely to hear "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow", which I don't think is encumbered. -- Barry Margolin I have a vague memory of a B/W comedy from the thirties, it may have starred Cary Grant but I'm not sure, where a couple are having an intense conversation at a table and are constantly being interrupted by the singing of "Happy Birthday to You" by various groups at other tables. Dave in Toronto | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Barry Margolin at September 24, 2006, 3:55 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | In article wrote: Quote:On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is copyrighted? one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL Can you give one example of such a film? He probably can't. Because of the copyright issue, TV and movies often avoid singing "Happy Birthday" at all. You're more likely to hear "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow", which I don't think is encumbered. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Spasmo at September 24, 2006, 2:04 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:21:00 -0700, Rufus Leaking wrote: Quote: Did you know that the little tune you sing at a birthday party is copyrighted? one of the thing I get a laugh at when you hear it being used in a movie wher the action takes place before 1905, LOL Can you give one example of such a film? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 24, 2006, 11:52 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: The black car gets projected as black in *both* images. The white car gets projected as red (at maximum red-luminance, i.e., equating to white) in the red image... and likewise as blue in the blue image. (Meanwhile, note that the only reason you can even see the black car in *either* image is because of the surrounding, presumably gray, desert. I.e., the black car is, in a sense, a car-shaped absence of both red and blue light.) I yield to your explanations, and declare myself to be a total idiot after all. It is interesting to have learned from this that comic book and magazine red/blue 3D, and many internet web-site examples, work in an opposite way than movie red/blue 3D, as you noted several posts back. If it helps reduce the totality of your self-declared idiocy... I hadn't realized their opposite-ness until this discussion (...though I've long maintained a greater-than-consumer-level pursuit of 3D in general). -- /---------------------------\ | YOUR taste at work... |... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 24, 2006, 1:33 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:The black car gets projected as black in *both* images. The white car gets projected as red (at maximum red-luminance, i.e., equating to white) in the red image... and likewise as blue in the blue image. (Meanwhile, note that the only reason you can even see the black car in *either* image is because of the surrounding, presumably gray, desert. I.e., the black car is, in a sense, a car-shaped absence of both red and blue light.) I yield to your explanations, and declare myself to be a total idiot after all. It is interesting to have learned from this that comic book and magazine red/blue 3D, and many internet web-site examples, work in an opposite way than movie red/blue 3D, as you noted several posts back. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 11:04 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: No... the red filter blocks that image made of blue light (as you've just realized), so that the eye behind the red filter can't see the blue image at all. (When your red-filtered eye looks at blue characters on your calendar, they turn black. The same thing happens to a projected blue image, i.e., it turns black... but, because you're in a darkened room, turning black is equivalent to vanishing. It would be logically (though not necessarily psychologically) easy to capitulate at this point and make an analogy, which you seem to be making, between the blue/red and the right-angle/ polorizing processes. I think we both see how that analogy would be made so I wont go through the tedium of making it. There's a similarity to polarizing, in the sense that like passes like (and blocks unlike)... but the physics is way different, afaics. So, no, I'm not flirting with an analogy. Quote:But let's talk about screens and darkened rooms for a bit. A movie screen is designed to be both ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 8:38 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:No... the red filter blocks that image made of blue light (as you've just realized), so that the eye behind the red filter can't see the blue image at all. (When your red-filtered eye looks at blue characters on your calendar, they turn black. The same thing happens to a projected blue image, i.e., it turns black... but, because you're in a darkened room, turning black is equivalent to vanishing. It would be logically (though not necessarily psychologically) easy to capitulate at this point and make an analogy, which you seem to be making, between the blue/red and the right-angle/ polorizing processes. I think we both see how that analogy would be made so I wont go through the tedium of making it. But let's talk about screens and darkened rooms for a bit. A movie screen is designed to be both highly reflective of light, and minimally intrusive from the unlit parts of it. Thus it can show a moon and stars in a night sky quite effectively if the room is dark. Thinking of the screen as basi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 7:41 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: Calvin wrote: No, it doesn't. In red/blue 3D projection, a single filmstrip has both the red and blue images on it. There is no color filter over the projector lens. Originally, there was... I think. Regardless, the issue's a red herring, as the single strip has been composited to result in projected image that's the same as a true dual projection's. You threw in this particular red herring. But there's no reason to suppose that the original red/blue projection used two projectors, unless you're talking about some period of time before the beginning of the 50s 3D craze, which started with the polorized, dual projector, color 'Bwana Devil'. After the main polorized era it seems far more likely that red/blue was sometimes used precisely because no special projection was required. I have two objections: 1) a single strip would make various adjustments difficult, e.g., separation and relative luminance, and 2) I *seem* to recall that two projectors were used at first. However, ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 7:35 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: Yes, the red filter *does* block blue... and the blue, red (...except for the leakage inherent in all systems: red/blue, polaroid, or shutter-glasses). When you say that "what gets through" merely appears as dark, that is in fact the effect of its having been blocked. Since my last post I have realized that you are right about part of this and I was wrong. The red filter does indeed block out blue light, and it is the fact that none of it gets through that allows the image that was projected and reflected in blue to be perceived by the eye behind the red filter.... No... the red filter blocks that image made of blue light (as you've just realized), so that the eye behind the red filter can't see the blue image at all. (When your red-filtered eye looks at blue characters on your calendar, they turn black. The same thing happens to a projected blue image, i.e., it turns black... but, because you're in a darkened room, turning black is equivalent to vanishing. Meanwhile, for a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 4:35 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | To mP: Before you explain to me that the polarizing process works because of the fact that light polarized one way by a filter in front of a projector does not get through a filter polarized at a right angle to the projected and reflected polarized light, please know that, not being a -total- idiot, I have understood that for the past 54 years. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 4:22 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:Yes, the red filter *does* block blue... and the blue, red (...except for the leakage inherent in all systems: red/blue, polaroid, or shutter-glasses). When you say that "what gets through" merely appears as dark, that is in fact the effect of its having been blocked. Since my last post I have realized that you are right about part of this and I was wrong. The red filter does indeed block out blue light, and it is the fact that none of it gets through that allows the image that was projected and reflected in blue to be perceived by the eye behind the red filter. And likewise for the other eye, the blue filter, and the red projected image. But my essential point remains. The red filter washes out the red projected image, and presents the other image to the eye behind the red filter. The blue filter washes out the blue projected image, and presents the other image to the eye behind the blue filter. Quote:Take your two pairs of glasses and put a (single) lens from one against a lens from th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 3:04 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:Yes, the red filter *does* block blue... and the blue, red (...except for the leakage inherent in all systems: red/blue, polaroid, or shutter-glasses). When you say that "what gets through" merely appears as dark, that is in fact the effect of its having been blocked. Take your two pairs of glasses and put a (single) lens from one against a lens from the other... and then look through the sandwich. If you've chosen opposite colors, the light that gets through will be greatly diminished, i.e., blocked. You're as tenacious as Arnold and his metallic bones in The Terminator, that I just finished watching for the first time. But I'll have to respond to this later, as to the other. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 3:00 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:Calvin wrote: No, it doesn't. In red/blue 3D projection, a single filmstrip has both the red and blue images on it. There is no color filter over the projector lens. Originally, there was... I think. Regardless, the issue's a red herring, as the single strip has been composited to result in projected image that's the same as a true dual projection's. You threw in this particular red herring. But there's no reason to suppose that the original red/blue projection used two projectors, unless you're talking about some period of time before the beginning of the 50s 3D craze, which started with the polorized, dual projector, color 'Bwana Devil'. After the main polorized era it seems far more likely that red/blue was sometimes used precisely because no special projection was required. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 2:40 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: No, it doesn't... and here's why: In a red/blue 3D projection, the blue image is composed entirely of blue light, because its projector lens has a blue filter over it. And, naturally, what the blue projector lens passes intact (i.e., an image built of varying amounts of blue light) the blue viewer lens does as well. The red viewer lens, meanwhile, lets *no* blue light through (...and, thus, sees no "variability" to the blue light with which to construct an image). Again, this description does *not* apply to colored images on white paper in a lighted room ...where everything's more-or-less reversed... More later, but no matter how you look at the differences between settings: white paper, movie screen in the dark, TV screen in light or dark; the red filter simply does not block out blue, and the blue filter does not block out red. What gets through does not 'appear' either blue or red though, but merely some degree of dark. One minor thing should be noted. In a typical pair ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 2:17 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:Calvin wrote: moviePig wrote: No, it doesn't... and here's why: In a red/blue 3D projection, the blue image is composed entirely of blue light, because its projector lens has a blue filter over it. ... No, it doesn't. In red/blue 3D projection, a single filmstrip has both the red and blue images on it. There is no color filter over the projector lens. Originally, there was... I think. Regardless, the issue's a red herring, as the single strip has been composited to result in projected image that's the same as a true dual projection's. -- /---------------------------\ | YOUR taste at work... | | | | http://www.moviepig.com | \---------------------------/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RSF Group at September 23, 2006, 1:45 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | sirblob1@hotmail.com wrote: Quote:we could sign it as collectively directed by the loony bunch of magnificients from past films and current films ng. it'd be in homage to that chap who made 13 lakes and we could dedicate it to spielberg on the closing credits. whaddaya tinkle? a mooie on the art of jackson pollock? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RSF Group at September 23, 2006, 1:34 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | sirblob1@hotmail.com wrote: Quote:we could sign it as collectively directed by the loony bunch of magnificients from past films and current films ng. it'd be in homage to that chap who made 13 lakes and we could dedicate it to spielberg on the closing credits. whaddaya tinkle? a mooie on the art of jackson pollock? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 1:10 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: No, it doesn't... and here's why: In a red/blue 3D projection, the blue image is composed entirely of blue light, because its projector lens has a blue filter over it. ... No, it doesn't. In red/blue 3D projection, a single filmstrip has both the red and blue images on it. There is no color filter over the projector lens. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 12:58 pm | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:No, it doesn't... and here's why: In a red/blue 3D projection, the blue image is composed entirely of blue light, because its projector lens has a blue filter over it. And, naturally, what the blue projector lens passes intact (i.e., an image built of varying amounts of blue light) the blue viewer lens does as well. The red viewer lens, meanwhile, lets *no* blue light through (...and, thus, sees no "variability" to the blue light with which to construct an image). Again, this description does *not* apply to colored images on white paper in a lighted room ...where everything's more-or-less reversed... More later, but no matter how you look at the differences between settings: white paper, movie screen in the dark, TV screen in light or dark; the red filter simply does not block out blue, and the blue filter does not block out red. What gets through does not 'appear' either blue or red though, but merely some degree of dark. One minor thing should be noted. In a typical pair of red/blue gl... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: trotsky at September 23, 2006, 11:11 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:moviePig wrote: My additional example, by itself, will likely prove nothing to you. Here's more: The crux of the matter is that red lines view as black through a blue filter. So, if the background is white, then they're accentuated -- as you correctly claim for a 3d image-pair printed on a white page. But if, instead, the background is black, then the red lines vanish -- which applies to a screen darkened for watching movies (3D or otherwise). I'll read and respond to this later in the autumn (which began an hour ago). Now my cats are expecting me, for bedtime. I saw that movie: "Bedtime for Bonzo". | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviePig at September 23, 2006, 10:43 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | Calvin wrote: Quote:... The blue filter eliminates the blue image ... No, it doesn't... and here's why: In a red/blue 3D projection, the blue image is composed entirely of blue light, because its projector lens has a blue filter over it. And, naturally, what the blue projector lens passes intact (i.e., an image built of varying amounts of blue light) the blue viewer lens does as well. The red viewer lens, meanwhile, lets *no* blue light through (...and, thus, sees no "variability" to the blue light with which to construct an image). Again, this description does *not* apply to colored images on white paper in a lighted room ...where everything's more-or-less reversed... -- /---------------------------\ | YOUR taste at work... | | | | http://www.moviepig.com | \---------------------------/ | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 2:07 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:My additional example, by itself, will likely prove nothing to you. Here's more: The crux of the matter is that red lines view as black through a blue filter. So, if the background is white, then they're accentuated -- as you correctly claim for a 3d image-pair printed on a white page. But if, instead, the background is black, then the red lines vanish -- which applies to a screen darkened for watching movies (3D or otherwise). I'll read and respond to this later in the autumn (which began an hour ago). Now my cats are expecting me, for bedtime. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Calvin at September 23, 2006, 2:03 am | | Topic: why does zombie movies have to be about zombies taking over? Forum: groupsrv | | moviePig wrote: Quote:Firstly, I'm attempting neither to declare anyone's idiocy nor to estimate its totality... so, you're on your own there. Secondly, if your small calendar features some black characters as well as red ones, then you'll note that looking through the *blue* filter turns the red characters (nearly) as black as the black ones... And again, not being a -total- idiot, I'm well aware of that. Just because I limited my comments to how the red filter eliminates the red image, not the blue, does not mean that I'm completely in the dark about everything else. Let me try to be more specific and comprehensive: The red filter eliminates the red image but shows the blue image as dark. The blue filter eliminates the blue image but shows the red image as dark. That's how the damn things work. By 'eliminates' I don't mean that the blue and red don't enter your eyeballs. I mean that the images are lost to your perception, except in certain cases where they can be inferred, for example, the red squares are s... | | Read Entire Entry |
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