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Posted by: Alric Knebel at March 1, 2008, 8:43 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
Auntie Lib wrote: Quote:RichA wrote: trotsky wrote: You've seen it? Can you explain in detail how it was "cookie cutter"? Another tired children's fantasy movie. How many have they released in the past five years? So, I guess the answer is "No." Here we have yet another example of Rich talking out his ass about a movie he hasn't seen. Well, color me surprised! Don't you EVER get tired of wanking on about things you have no clue about Rich? Oh . . . and to stay on topic, "The Golden Compass" was pretty damn far from "cookie-cutter." Which is probably why it struggled to find an audience. People didn't know what to make of it. Grown-up themes, interesting - though violent - story, young protagonists so it was advertised as a "kids movie" when anyone who read the books could tell them it wasn't. Gorgeous fantasy look. And, unlike you, I DID see it. elizabeth I'm hoping they do all three films, and just wait for the public to catch on. Then they can repackage the DVDs about ten times to make a nice profit. --
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Posted by: Auntie Lib at February 29, 2008, 9:13 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:trotsky wrote: You've seen it?  Can you explain in detail how it was "cookie cutter"? Another tired children's fantasy movie.  How many have they released in the past five years? So, I guess the answer is "No." Here we have yet another example of Rich talking out his ass about a movie he hasn't seen. Well, color me surprised! Don't you EVER get tired of wanking on about things you have no clue about Rich? Oh . . . and to stay on topic, "The Golden Compass" was pretty damn far from "cookie-cutter." Which is probably why it struggled to find an audience. People didn't know what to make of it. Grown-up themes, interesting - though violent - story, young protagonists so it was advertised as a "kids movie" when anyone who read the books could tell them it wasn't. Gorgeous fantasy look. And, unlike you, I DID see it. elizabeth
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Posted by: Papa Lazarou at February 28, 2008, 3:43 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. I'm surprised you view its agenda as right wing. Wasn't it a left-wing parable, with the set-upon Spartans representing the modern day defenders of Iraq and with the Persians symbolizing the invading, bullying, thuggish USA?
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Posted by: RichA at February 28, 2008, 3:30 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 28, 2:43 pm, Papa Lazarou wrote: Quote:RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. I'm surprised you view its agenda as right wing. Wasn't it a left-wing parable, with the set-upon Spartans representing the modern day defenders of Iraq and with the Persians symbolizing the invading, bullying, thuggish USA? What defenders of Iraq? You mean the defenders Allah's sub-human religious maniacs?
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Posted by: RichA at February 27, 2008, 5:24 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 27, 1:11 am, Effet de Papillon wrote: Quote:On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:21:51 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 26, 8:37 am, Effet de Papillon <newsgroupss...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:04:07 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3...@gmail.com wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. "right wing agenda"? You're kidding, right? Since when does the right wing agenda include supporting homosexuality? Debbie Only kooks saw that in the movie, or people who were more preoccupied with the men's physiques instead of the battles. Only homophobes blindly ignore the blatant homosexual subtext of that film. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just that the film was promoted in a disingenuous way, IMO.) It's almost as ridiculous as a guy saying he only reads Playboy for the articles. Debbie So what specifically where the subtexts that lead you to the conclusion?
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Posted by: Effet de Papillon at February 27, 2008, 1:36 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:21:51 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: Quote:On Feb 26, 8:37 am, Effet de Papillon <newsgroupss...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:04:07 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3...@gmail.com wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. "right wing agenda"? You're kidding, right? Since when does the right wing agenda include supporting homosexuality? Debbie Only kooks saw that in the movie, or people who were more preoccupied with the men's physiques instead of the battles. Only homophobes blindly ignore the blatant homosexual subtext of that film. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just that the film was promoted in a disingenuous way, IMO.) It's almost as ridiculous as a guy saying he only reads Playboy for the articles. Debbie
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Posted by: Alric Knebel at February 26, 2008, 7:59 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:On Feb 26, 9:03 am, trotsky wrote: RichA wrote: On Feb 25, 9:23 pm, Alric Knebel wrote: RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. And yet look at home many same type pieces of fantasy film came out in addition to Golden Compass. Cookie-cutter movies are now worthy of rewards? You've seen it? Can you explain in detail how it was "cookie cutter"? TIA. Another tired children's fantasy movie. How many have they released in the past five years? Did you see it? It definitely wasn't a TIRED child's fantasy movie. In fact, I think it might have had trouble finding an audience because it LOOKED like it might be a child's movie, but it was far better than that. --
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Posted by: trotsky at February 26, 2008, 10:03 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:On Feb 25, 9:23 pm, Alric Knebel wrote: RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. And yet look at home many same type pieces of fantasy film came out in addition to Golden Compass. Cookie-cutter movies are now worthy of rewards? You've seen it? Can you explain in detail how it was "cookie cutter"? TIA.
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Posted by: Effet de Papillon at February 26, 2008, 9:37 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:04:07 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: Quote:It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. "right wing agenda"? You're kidding, right? Since when does the right wing agenda include supporting homosexuality? Debbie
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Posted by: RichA at February 26, 2008, 7:33 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 26, 9:03 am, trotsky wrote: Quote:RichA wrote: On Feb 25, 9:23 pm, Alric Knebel wrote: RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. And yet look at home many same type pieces of fantasy film came out in addition to Golden Compass. Cookie-cutter movies are now worthy of rewards? You've seen it? Can you explain in detail how it was "cookie cutter"? TIA. Another tired children's fantasy movie. How many have they released in the past five years?
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Posted by: Alric Knebel at February 26, 2008, 7:30 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
Red Cloud wrote: Quote:On Feb 25, 8:45 pm, calvin wrote: 'Fracture' and 'Zodiac' were robbed. Zodiac could be robbed for too much apparent violences or too much bloodbath killing. Too much kill. Too much blood. NO matter how good Zodiac could be, Hollywood is not ready to give Zodiac the best overall winner. Wait 2 or 3 years, it could be possible. You can see the most violence and most bloodbath psychopath killing will be the overall winner of the Oscar. THey will make movie about incest like the latest faggot Hollywood movie. Well AMerica is the best place in the world to make movie about incest and Homoesexual/Lesbian movie. Where were you the year SILENCE OF THE LAMBS won Best Picture? --
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Posted by: Alric Knebel at February 26, 2008, 7:29 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:On Feb 25, 9:23 pm, Alric Knebel wrote: RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. And yet look at home many same type pieces of fantasy film came out in addition to Golden Compass. Cookie-cutter movies are now worthy of rewards? GOLDEN COMPASS wasn't cookie-cutter, by a long shot. And while 300 was stunning to look at, it was a pretty flat presentation for the most part. Simple visual design, really. Not simple in execution, but visually simple in the final product. The movie had an eerie look to it, and it was like a moving comic book. They did a good job. But once I saw it, I never really desired to see it again, because once I got over the novelty of the lo...
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Posted by: RichA at February 26, 2008, 5:21 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 26, 8:37 am, Effet de Papillon wrote: Quote:On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:04:07 -0800 (PST), RichA <rander3...@gmail.com wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. "right wing agenda"? You're kidding, right? Since when does the right wing agenda include supporting homosexuality? Debbie Only kooks saw that in the movie, or people who were more preoccupied with the men's physiques instead of the battles.
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Posted by: RichA at February 26, 2008, 5:20 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 25, 11:45 pm, calvin wrote: Quote:'Fracture' and 'Zodiac' were robbed. True. But Zodiac required an attention span to watch, which would have alienated 90% of movie audiences and at least 50% of the Academy.
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Posted by: calvin at February 26, 2008, 4:28 am
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 26, 6:30 am, Alric Knebel wrote: Quote:Red Cloud wrote: On Feb 25, 8:45 pm, calvin wrote: 'Fracture' and 'Zodiac' were robbed.  Zodiac could be robbed for too much apparent violences or too much bloodbath killing.  Too much kill. Too much blood. NO matter how good Zodiac could be, Hollywood is not ready to give Zodiac the best overall winner. Wait 2 or 3 years, it could be possible. You can see the most violence and most bloodbath psychopath killing will be the overall winner of the Oscar. THey will make movie about incest like the latest faggot Hollywood movie. Well AMerica is the best  place in the world to make movie about incest and Homoesexual/Lesbian movie. Where were you the year SILENCE OF THE LAMBS won Best Picture? Or the year 'No Country for Old Men' won?
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Posted by: Red Cloud at February 25, 2008, 10:57 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 25, 8:45 pm, calvin wrote: Quote:'Fracture' and 'Zodiac' were robbed. Zodiac could be robbed for too much apparent violences or too much bloodbath killing. Too much kill. Too much blood. NO matter how good Zodiac could be, Hollywood is not ready to give Zodiac the best overall winner. Wait 2 or 3 years, it could be possible. You can see the most violence and most bloodbath psychopath killing will be the overall winner of the Oscar. THey will make movie about incest like the latest faggot Hollywood movie. Well AMerica is the best place in the world to make movie about incest and Homoesexual/Lesbian movie.
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Posted by: Alric Knebel at February 25, 2008, 10:23 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
RichA wrote: Quote:It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. --
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Posted by: calvin at February 25, 2008, 6:45 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
'Fracture' and 'Zodiac' were robbed.
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Posted by: RichA at February 25, 2008, 4:32 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
On Feb 25, 9:23 pm, Alric Knebel wrote: Quote:RichA wrote: It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda. It really wasn't that stunning, Rich. It really wasn't. The right movie got it for cinematography. And THE GOLDEN COMPASS got it for visual effects or something like that, which is what 300 would have been up against. And COMPASS definitely deserved it. And yet look at home many same type pieces of fantasy film came out in addition to Golden Compass. Cookie-cutter movies are now worthy of rewards?
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Posted by: RichA at February 25, 2008, 1:04 pm
Topic: "300" was robbed Forum: groupsrv
It should have won something for cinematography or FX. The LIBERAL Academy members HATED its right wing agenda.
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