| Posted by: MadsenOMC at March 3, 2008, 11:22 am | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore These celebrities who back Obama have all these tax shelters and investments to protect their assets , so higher taxes won't affect them as much , but it will kill the middle class , so what do they care , again there is no such thing as free health care , it has to be paid for in some way or another , so get ready for sticker shock when or if it's implemented . Right dd. Cause Bush, Cheney and all their rich friends in the oil business really give a shit about the middle class and higher taxes for those who aren't rich and white. If you don't think Obama cares more about the plight of the working class than Bush or McCain, you're insane. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at March 3, 2008, 11:17 am | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | If people don't mind paying even more taxes , than we can have a uni health care system . How does 9 dollars a gallon for gasoline sound , or a 17 - 18 percent sales tax , or 9 dollars a gallon for heating oil . If people are okay with that , then go ahead and implement a " free " health care system for all , because it has to be paid for in some way or another , that free moniker is misleading . Also , do you really want the government dictating what doctors you can see . I know in England a primary care physician is assigned to each individual , you don't have a choice in the matter . Then that physician will refer you to specialists if needed , you also don't have a choice in that matter either . In essence , their is even less choice with regards to uni care . If people don't mind any of the above , then there should be no problem , i just don't think people realize it's not the panacea it seems to be . I agree , the healthcare system is out of control , but fed control of it may not be the ans... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Country1969 at March 3, 2008, 1:09 am | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | I go thru this battle with my co-workers everyday. They love McCain. I am voting for Obama next month in Pennsylvania. I don't like Clinton. I hear this everyday," We are not ready for a black president" I say then," When are we going to be ready for one in 25,50 or 100 years?" But it's ok that people can accept a woman for president? This election is very interesting. I believe whoever is elected should worry about getting our troops home and let them worry about their own war. We are getting screwed. The first time we fought in Iraq we should have taked control of the oil and taken care of us in the USA. Instead of paying these high gas prices and home heating oil prices. Tax cuts: property taxes/school taxes Health care for everyone. Not for certain people. I am so tired of this issue. I have health care but I pay so much from my pay. The first thing they ask for when taken the the ER room you have insurance. Why? If I don't I have to wait? I say: Health care should be free. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at March 1, 2008, 9:17 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | I don't mind paying a fair share , but expanding gov control , and the seperation of the public from their money , by politicians , seems to be in vogue . They think the only solution is more rules , more taxes , more government control . It's just the opposite , let people keep more of their money , let them make more decisions on their own , even if they fail as result of their decisions , this hand holding fed and gov control is getting worse . These pinheads don't want an independent populace , they want you to be dependent on them for everything . Health care , personal decisions , what you think , how you feel . We have this sick notion that if the gov isn't involved , we aren't safe or healthy , we have ceased to rely on ourselves , and that's where a candidate such as Obama comes into play , he feeds off the weak populace's need for a savior , people who know better have no need for him and his promises . | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at February 28, 2008, 1:13 am | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore Hey , give Obama a chance , soon enough he'll be embroiled in controversy , will sell his soul to the party , and become just another zombie towing the line for his " friends " . This guy hasn't been a politician long enough to get dirty , at least Mcain has paid his dues / Obama wants to jump from apprentice to leader of the United States , bypassing the time it takes to develop the skill , patience , intelligence , and wisdom it requires . In this political climate those traits don't seem to matter anymore , it's the promise of a better tomorrow , the fantasy that positive thinking will " change " the fortunes of the downtrodden and put upon citizens . The only difference a new president will make is to the people they owe when they get in office , Obama will be doling out favors to his buddies much like Hinton and Mcain would if they became president . Obama is a pollyannic neophyte . A master manipulator of emotions , a slick motivation... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at February 23, 2008, 8:02 am | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Heart Collector Seriously. Sick of this shit. The balls it takes to suggest that the democrats, who have conducted pretty impressive debates and have a seriously good outline of their economic plan, and the widely-known benefits of universal healthcare in replacing the terrible healthcare system that america has, all of the discussions the candidates have had on the issues, the elaboration on how they plan to fund most of these (removing tax cuts, decrease in war spending, removal of several plans), the balls it takes to brand that "socialism", then vote for that sellout piece of shit John McCain, the man who couldn't answer what his position was on an issue because he didn't know what it was, the man who's been embroiled in scandals since forever, the man who watered himself down and sold out from decrying fundamentalists to posing with them, who let Rove's machinations step all over him and took it like a little bitch, the man who'd give a blowjob to George W. Bush... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bourne101 at February 22, 2008, 10:38 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by brodeurnumber1 Hahaha, anybody that is constantly saying that Obama has no chance has some serious thinking to do. I'm not ruling out that Obama has a chance (although I may have made a previous statement way back in this thread that said that), but he most certainly is not a lock and if you think he is... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: brodeurnumber1 at February 22, 2008, 6:46 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Bourne101 Hahaha, this thread is hilarious. Anyone that thinks Obama is a lock for president has some serious thinking to do. Hahaha, anybody that is constantly saying that Obama has no chance has some serious thinking to do. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Brando @$$ Fat at February 22, 2008, 6:20 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | If Republicans can come up with something against Obama other than this "experience" nonsense (he has more legislative experience than Hillary Clinton does) then he could very well be the next president. Then again, he will also be going up against the same masterminds behind the extremely racist Willie Horton ad and the equally unbelievable Swift Boat ad. As for this commercial, people shouldn't hold it against the candidate if some of his supporters are silly. I mean, I despise Common, but I wouldn't vote for or against Obama because he does. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Moviefan1234 at February 22, 2008, 6:11 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Bourne101 Hahaha, this thread is hilarious. Anyone that thinks Obama is a lock for president has some serious thinking to do. At this point in time, you can't honestly think that Obama running against McCain and not winning by at least five states. Of course, we'll see the republican smear campaign in full swing again I imagine. As long as Obama sticks to his guns and shows the change the country so desperately needs, he'll win convincingly. He's a likable guy, very Kennedyesque. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MadsenOMC at February 22, 2008, 4:55 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | I didn't mean to sound defensive. I just wasn't exactly sure what you were getting at. Don't assume that every Obama supporter is the same just because a newspaper said some people clapped when he blew his nose. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MadsenOMC at February 22, 2008, 4:16 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Heart Collector Seriously. Sick of this shit. The balls it takes to suggest that the democrats, who have conducted pretty impressive debates and have a seriously good outline of their economic plan, and the widely-known benefits of universal healthcare in replacing the terrible healthcare system that america has, all of the discussions the candidates have had on the issues, the elaboration on how they plan to fund most of these (removing tax cuts, decrease in war spending, removal of several plans), the balls it takes to brand that "socialism", then vote for that sellout piece of shit John McCain, the man who couldn't answer what his position was on an issue because he didn't know what it was, the man who's been embroiled in scandals since forever, the man who watered himself down and sold out from decrying fundamentalists to posing with them, who let Rove's machinations step all over him and took it like a little bitch, the man who'd give a blowjob to George W. Bush... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at February 22, 2008, 4:12 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Seriously. Sick of this shit. The balls it takes to suggest that the democrats, who have conducted pretty impressive debates and have a seriously good outline of their economic plan, and the widely-known benefits of universal healthcare in replacing the terrible healthcare system that america has, all of the discussions the candidates have had on the issues, the elaboration on how they plan to fund most of these (removing tax cuts, decrease in war spending, removal of several plans), the balls it takes to brand that "socialism", then vote for that sellout piece of shit John McCain, the man who couldn't answer what his position was on an issue because he didn't know what it was, the man who's been embroiled in scandals since forever, the man who watered himself down and sold out from decrying fundamentalists to posing with them, who let Rove's machinations step all over him and took it like a little bitch, the man who'd give a blowjob to George W. Bush if it guaranteed him viability, the man who is ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at February 22, 2008, 3:54 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Briare Rabbit McCain has something any other candidate lacks and that is experience on the political front. McCain's a retarded piece of shit that's been involved in more lobbying scandals I can count, fyi Obama isn't a "socialist" and calling ANY member of the Democratic Party a "socialist" is beyond absurd. What fucking experience does McCain have? Being a part of the Keating Five? Being tortured for years, then wanting to allow waterboarding? Passing weakened bills because the pressure was too much? Being an irrascible ass that most of Senate hates? Selling out like a bitch? John McCain will not win this election. And Barrack Obama will be a pretty decent President. Obama's plans require funding. Hey, you know how he's planning on obtaining that funding? It's outlined pretty clearly in his website. For starters, removing those idiotic Bush tax cuts that McCain originally opposed, then flip-flopped and now approves of (because who would want to piss off his b... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mr. Fred Krueger at February 19, 2008, 5:11 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Briare Rabbit Except the exit polls put Hillary and Obama both only a percent or two ahead of McCain if the election were tomorrow. Also, Obama is an awful candidate and will run your country into even more debt with his do gooder, socialist nonsense. I'd vote Clinton but I wouldn't like it,. Except Obama and Hillary are bringing in thousands of more voters than McCain is. For example, Obama and Hillary brought out over 344,000 voters compared to McCain and Romney's 128,000 total in the Connecticut caucases. Percentages aren't quite as accurate as the actual numbers. And boo on the socialist nonsense. I swear, this country, though I love it, has such a hard on for dog eat dog capitalism that it scares me. The fear of socialism is one of the reasons that we don't have amazing free health care--meanwhile the very not socialist Canada can have it. If you ask me, the White House needs a do gooder. Someone who'll look out for me and you (though I know you aren't in my country Briar ) a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Briare Rabbit at February 19, 2008, 5:05 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Fred Krueger Hey, all I know is I would rather a guy who has the right outlook on the country than a guy like McCain who is promising no change on the Iraq front and has no real plans for the economy...something that needs fixed ASAP. Would Barack follow through with his plans? McCain has something any other candidate lacks and that is experience on the political front. He was a senator right through the Reagan years, thats a big plus for a lot of reps. Also, you're in Iraq. Bush fucked up and there's no pulling out right away. Have a candidate who'll pull out of Iraq just because its a popular thing to do might throw the entire middle east off kilter and you'd lose any pro-American sentiment by the people. Barack can't follow through with his plans because most of them require millions of dollars in funds that no body would willingly put through. Poeple voting for him don't realize everyone of his programs needs to be set up, staffed, funded and carried through and that costs... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Briare Rabbit at February 19, 2008, 5:01 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Fred Krueger You're kidding right. Based on McCain's stances (wanting to stay in Iraq, acknowledging that he knows jack shit about economics), and the continued stubborn nature of the Republican party, McCain doesn't have much of a chance in the November elections. Obama will hopefully get the nomination from the democratic party and go on to win the presidency. His middle name has nothing to do with it. Except the exit polls put Hillary and Obama both only a percent or two ahead of McCain if the election were tomorrow. Also, Obama is an awful candidate and will run your country into even more debt with his do gooder, socialist nonsense. I'd vote Clinton but I wouldn't like it,. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mr. Fred Krueger at February 19, 2008, 4:53 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Hey, all I know is I would rather a guy who has the right outlook on the country than a guy like McCain who is promising no change on the Iraq front and has no real plans for the economy...something that needs fixed ASAP. Would Barack follow through with his plans? My best guess would be, yes he would at least try. And with a largely Democratic Congress he sure wouldn't have a hard time getting his issues through legislature. As far as Universal Health Care, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want that. Sounds good to me. Affordable Health Care for everyone (and both Obama and Clinton want that), sounds awesome. Coming out of college, I'm gonna need it. And besides, it's based on policies that we vote. I agree with 90% of Barack's stances, as do millions of other voters. Whether he follows through or not, we can't look in a crystal ball and see. But based upon the democratic party's continual stance for the little guy, the American worker as opposed to big business, and the hopes of change in America in the rea... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Bourne101 at February 18, 2008, 10:20 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Fred Krueger Universal health care, a strengthened economy and an immediate withdrawal out of Iraq aren't good enough, specific reasons to vote for the man? I'd say they are. And how many times has that shit been promised and followed through? Maybe not the withdrawal out of Iraq, but "a strenthened economy," give me a break. And don't even get me started on the health care. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mr. Fred Krueger at February 18, 2008, 3:46 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by countchocula lolololol I've never heard a specific reason to vote for him other than "he's all about change omg!" Universal health care, a strengthened economy and an immediate withdrawal out of Iraq aren't good enough, specific reasons to vote for the man? I'd say they are. Hell, I sent my absentee ballot in last week. Chalk one vote in Ohio for Obama. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: eljefe15 at February 18, 2008, 3:40 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Well, I didn't think that after that horrible fucking 1st term George Bush couldn't get re-elected. But guess what, he was. So me saying McCain has no chance would be completely wrong. Never underestimate the stupidity of the majority of the American public. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bourne101 at February 17, 2008, 7:06 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by countchocula It's not hard to have a policy. I just don't know why America is so quick to trust him. It's like an artist releasing a Greatest Hits album before releasing an actual studio album. Who would buy it? Ditto. Enough said. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at February 17, 2008, 4:37 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | I guess you're one of those "Hillary has 35 years of experience" types. Regardless of one's opinions about Barack Obama, Hillary's primary campaign has been absolutely disgusting. She's threatened to break pledges in order to seat Florida and Michigan delegates, which is absolutely unreasonable. Her campaign has plainly stated that even if they're short in delegates (and the popular vote), they'll try to steal the nomination by getting superdelegates to tip the balance. Her campaign aides have suggested Obama dealt drugs. Her campaign aides have ignored every Obama win because of nonsensical reasons. She's put out a sea of negative ads. She doesn't even congratulate Obama for his victories in speeches anymore. She refuses to disclose her financial records. She's sold donor list already. She is a disgusting, typical politician and has no interest in democracy and the will of the people, only in going down in history books as the first female president of the United States. Fuck Hillary Clinton. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: countchocula at February 16, 2008, 2:52 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | It's not hard to have a policy. I just don't know why America is so quick to trust him. It's like an artist releasing a Greatest Hits album before releasing an actual studio album. Who would buy it? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: countchocula at February 14, 2008, 8:22 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by DaMovieMan If given the chance, he'll do lots for America. lolololol I've never heard a specific reason to vote for him other than "he's all about change omg!" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at February 14, 2008, 6:35 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Even if i don't want to see any of these candidates become president ( i thought Thompson was the only one running with half a brain for this type of office ) , i have to handed it to Mcain and Obama . One is running as a liberal conservative , careful not to alienate the bleeding hearts , immigration apologists , and social " liberals " ( you know the rainbow bright crowd ) , and then you have Obama , who is basically running on his good looks , charisma and the big issue for him , Change . LOL , that's all i ever hear from him , we have to change everything , change our schools , change the car we drive , change our elected officials , change what we eat , change the oil in our cars , we must change ..... change . He's all about change is what i get out of his speeches , although he never actually articulates how we go about these supposed changes that need to be made , but we must change them nonetheless . Change for the sake of change , i am the future . I think Mcain pissing off the conservati... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at February 14, 2008, 5:44 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | He keeps reiterating the fact that he started off as a community organizer in Chicago helping steelworkers or something. And he's done more I'm sure of it. If given the chance, he'll do lots for America. It just seems like Hilary has been eyeing this nomination ever since she was first lady and that's not a good sign. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: countchocula at February 14, 2008, 4:14 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by EBastard I got a better question: countchocula, what the hell am I looking at in your avatar? You don't want to know. That's the beauty of it. I'm voting for Clinton in spite of the "retard doing jumping jacks" dance that her supporters seem to have espoused. America needs a vulnerable leader. Plus, she has been in the White House for eight years, and she knows how things work. She would probably know how to flow with the system in order to get shit done. If Obama cares about this country, what has he done up until now to better society? You don't need to be in office to make a difference. I want to see actions. Obama needs to prove himself by actually doing something. It's blood mixed with semen. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: echo_bravo at February 14, 2008, 4:12 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis Excuse me for being British, but who they devil are half those guys, Will I Am is clearly a talentless cock face, this is nearly as shamefull as his grammies nonsence, but Obama is a good guy. Well, the dude from Dumb & Dumberer was in there. Oh yeah, Obama is bringin out the big dawgs for this one! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at February 14, 2008, 1:57 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by EVILxxx Oh for Pete's sake your from Canada which means your an American (unless you emigrated)- a North American actually. Don't deny it bro. I know you've got plaid shirts somewhere in your closet. Anyways reputation is important but as far as what other nations think of us, that is incredibly low on the list as far as who I vote for. Haha, yes the Location feature never fails to confuse. I live and study in Montreal, lived here for about 3 years, but 2/3s of my life I've lived in Europe and I come from Serbia (Eastern Europe). And no matter what possible citizenships come my way in the future i'll never consider myself North American so...yeah. Sorry, but no plaid shirts.. (I didn't even get that remark which only proves I ain't from around these parts ) I'm assuming you're American, and I don't blame you for thinking like that at all, I'm a firm believer in patriotism so you're right on the money when you place things like the world's opinion of your country at the bottom but ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: NuclearMisfit at February 14, 2008, 1:53 pm | | Topic: Celebs make a song to support Obama...how cute Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Lindsey Hillary's response to the Obama "Yes I Can" music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no I'm going to go shoot myself... Wait a second.... Is that Bindy Irwin singing? | | Static Link |
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