| Posted by: sbunn10 at August 23, 2008, 7:49 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Derrida Really nice press conference interview with Watchmen co-creator Dave Gibbons: http://www.empireonline.com/movie-con/video.asp very cool press conference, thanks for the link! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pg13myass at August 22, 2008, 3:51 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | I'm definitely one of the ones who won't bother to watch The Watchmen when it comes out. Saw the trailer and I didn't feel no excitement or anticipation for it. I won't knock Snyder for the pretty visuals and the frame by frame similiarities. It all boils down to the track record for Alan Moore's stories being any good on screen. And so far, I can't think of any. V For Vendetta I only enjoyed as a stand alone movie. As far as it being anything near the original source material, no. I stand by Moore's position in that his material is not translatable to the screen. Not everything can be 100% faithful. And sometimes something that is 100% faithful doesn't translate to 'great movie.' I hated 300. I thought it was really boring. It was just very stylish in terms of camera work. But, I want substance to go along with my camera work. If Snyder makes a 6 hour long director's cut of Watchmen on DVD, I still won't consider it anywhere near close to the source. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: CuatroDiablos at August 21, 2008, 9:43 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | I don't get why everyone is so worried about how much of the novel the movie's running time will cover...bigger books have been covered appropreatly in 2:30 , I don't see why worry about a graphic novel. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electriclite at August 21, 2008, 9:26 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicPuppet Very good point. Also, if they showed the entire story in the trailer, people would be complaining about knowing too much or that they gave away everything. I suppose a teaser should lay everything out. I don't remember people complaining this much when the Dark Knight released a teaser with only voice over narration. Ah yes the TDK teaser. Never before have I had to repeat "It's A TEASER TRAILER" so many times for people still to come back with "But I wanted more!" GGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: fixedMind at August 21, 2008, 5:02 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | We as fans just have to accept that a lot of content from the novel will be dropped from the film. Or at least not given as much attention as it is in the comic. The whole shipwreck side story wont be in the theatrical release, and my guess is that most of the chapter heading(the exerpts, articles, etc.) will be given only the briefest of mention. Maybe a line or two to appease the avid fans of the comic. However Snyder is putting this together, his attention to detail has me convinced that he is dedicated to bringing us the best vision of the story as he is capable of. That will have to do for now, or until we get another trailer to pick apart. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bfox1220 at August 21, 2008, 4:09 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Got the novel the other day. I read it in one sitting. I was about halfway through at about 11 o clock and realized I couldnt wait to find out what happens so I finished. This is coming from a guy who has never read a comic in his life. The only reason I bought it was really because of the praise in this thread. I was so-so on the trailer before i read it but after I thought it was great. I could actually place what was going on and appreciate it rather then wondering wtf was happening. So for those of you who say comics arent your thing....it doesnt matter, read this! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Grand_Marquis at August 21, 2008, 1:44 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by CuatroDiablos 32 x 12 = 384 pages.... Um yeah of comic book bubbles..not whole pages of text. I think it should be pointed out that, in certain locations, there are whole pages of text. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: CosmicPuppet at August 21, 2008, 1:23 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by vesaker Maybe you're not getting it. No one is saying you need to read the book to understand the trailer or movie. No one is saying that you need to read the book think the trailer looks cool. The problem is ppl are down playing the whole thing based on a trailer that they say doesn't let them understand the story or why the fans are so exicted. First NO trailer depicts the story of the movie aside from the basics like that its an action or drama and perhaps some minor character and story monments. Secondly is read the fucking book and you'll understand why we are so excited, end of story. This isn't directed at anyone in patricular, not even KingofKings2525, but i and apparently others get pissed when ppl say something sucks and either know dick all about it or very very little and yet expect to understand. Very good point. Also, if they showed the entire story in the trailer, people would be complaining about knowing too much or that they gave away everything. I suppose a tease... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: thedudeman69 at August 21, 2008, 1:16 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by CuatroDiablos 32 x 12 = 384 pages.... Um yeah of comic book bubbles..not whole pages of text. dialogue doesn't have to drive a story, WALL E proved that. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: vesaker at August 21, 2008, 11:30 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite And I never read Watchmen before seeing the trailer, and I thought the trailer was cool. So reading the book to like the trailer really means jack shit. Its an extra little "ooooh" for the fans who've read the book, but in the end, its the movie that has to pony up the goods first, THEN make you want to read the book. If the audience needs a pre-requisite in order to understand a movie right off the bat or to like the trailer, well then the filmmaker has failed, at least in the eyes of the viewer. Maybe you're not getting it. No one is saying you need to read the book to understand the trailer or movie. No one is saying that you need to read the book think the trailer looks cool. The problem is ppl are down playing the whole thing based on a trailer that they say doesn't let them understand the story or why the fans are so exicted. First NO trailer depicts the story of the movie aside from the basics like that its an action or drama and perhaps some minor ch... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Tweek at August 21, 2008, 11:30 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by CuatroDiablos 32 x 12 = 384 pages.... Um yeah of comic book bubbles..not whole pages of text. What does that have to do with plot and character development? There's quite a story within those pages, despite the fact that it's not whole pages of text. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electriclite at August 21, 2008, 11:26 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by CuatroDiablos 32 x 12 = 384 pages.... Um yeah of comic book bubbles..not whole pages of text. Have you seen a script for a comic book? If its not such a big deal why has it been considered unfilmmable for over 20 years? Answer: because there's a lot of material. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: xOzymandiasx at August 21, 2008, 7:59 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | The trailer had two purposes, one to show fans of the book they had nothing to worry about when it comes to the films presentation and the other was to get non-fans to get the book. All these people bashing the film for looking stupid and retarded don't fully understand the concept of Watchmen and I'm sure probably never will. Its no point of trying to explain to them cause they won't understand or change their views. Hopefully when the movie is released they'll see why Watchmen is being talked about so much. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sbunn10 at August 21, 2008, 7:26 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | I'll be honest, I didn't really like the trailer that much the first time i saw it. I thought it was kind of dumb looking really. But after watching it a couple times, its grown on me. Even after I saw the trailer for the first time, and had mixed feelings, I still wanted to see the film, simply because of what it is. I haven't read the Watchmen, but its reputation is very great. To wish that a film is never released is crazy. You usually can't judge a movie from its trailer. Some movies that haven't excited me too much have ended up being fantastic. You never know.. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electriclite at August 21, 2008, 6:55 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | This is why this whole "copying panels straight from the comic" has my criticism. People here are talking like since the images are being copied verbatim from the panels of the comic to the movie screen that its completely following the novel. Ok, let's forget the visuals of one minutes and get to the meat of the matter: Each issue of Watchmen was 32 pages long and there were 12 issues. Let's do some math 32 x 12 = 384 pages. Average script lengths in H'wood: 120 pages for a two hour flick. Most Snyder will get for Watchmen: 150 minutes. And no they won't give him an extra 50 minutes, because this has to play in a theater as often as possible, which is directly related to the length of the film. So automatically right there, the book is not the movie, I don't care how many panels they copy or to what percentage they're copied. By the logic going on here, the pages inevitably missing from the film make the movie an "inauthentic" adaptation. So the real crux of the matter is with all the cu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 21, 2008, 3:32 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by rilocay But i also belive that once theyve read the book their opinion would drastically change on the subject. Exactly why I keep telling them they should read the book before judging. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rilocay at August 21, 2008, 3:16 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | If the movie does succesfully follow the book; it wont be dumb, because it's got alot of depth & discussion to its character's, superheroes and society in general; and wont be retarded because it has alot to fit in, so it's pace won't be too slow or too long. While i agree he should look into the book and read it, i don't see what's wrong with is opinion. I mean, i can see why he think it looks stupid and no doubt there will be alot of the public that may think alike. Just because so many of us love the book, doesn't mean the movie couldn't look stupid. Plus, you could say we are biast aswel? Someone who has no idea about watchmen at all could think this indeed. But i also belive that once theyve read the book their opinion would drastically change on the subject. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at August 21, 2008, 2:36 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Why would anyone wish for a film's non-release? Please answer me this, i would understand it if it was for a movie like Meet the Spartans or whatever but this is considered by many to be the best graphic novel of all time. It's serious business and it's your complete lack of desire to want to find out what it's about AT LEAST, and then bash it that gets to me and maybe to some others. But to wish for its non-release without even going a little deeper?? Puzzling. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 21, 2008, 2:02 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by KingofKings2525 You guys are getting into a big fuss over nothing. I don't think the movie looks good and I've never read the comic, what's the big deal? I don't know how reading the book/comic whateverthefuck would get me to think it looks cool either. I-THINK-IT-LOOKS-STUPID... oh NO! Heaven's to Morgatroid what shall we do? I really didn't expect this kind of reaction. Is it really that hard to believe that somebody may think this looks dumb and hope for it's non-release? I'm willing to bet my pinky that 100% of you have thought a movie looked dumb and RETARDED before seeing it as well. You're just hyprocritical when it comes to things you like? Most movies don't have graphic novels that a movie is directly adapting that you can pick up at any comic store, read, and get a good idea for how the movie's going to turn out. And yes, it really is hard to believe someone would think this looks dumb and would hope for it's non-release. The movie's adapting, directly, one of the new yo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: KingofKings2525 at August 21, 2008, 1:47 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | You guys are getting into a big fuss over nothing. I don't think the movie looks good and I've never read the comic, what's the big deal? I don't know how reading the book/comic whateverthefuck would get me to think it looks cool either. I-THINK-IT-LOOKS-STUPID... oh NO! Heaven's to Morgatroid what shall we do? I really didn't expect this kind of reaction. Is it really that hard to believe that somebody may think this looks dumb and hope for it's non-release? I'm willing to bet my pinky that 100% of you have thought a movie looked dumb and RETARDED before seeing it as well. You're just hyprocritical when it comes to things you like? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KingofKings2525 at August 21, 2008, 1:42 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by outsyder I really can't respect the opinion of someone who uses the term "retarded" to figuratively describe something. That's just retarded. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 21, 2008, 12:46 am | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite He thought the TRAILER was "retarded". He said NOTHING ABOUT THE BOOK. They are not the same thing! He can think the book is the end all be all of literature and still think the trailer is "retarded". Reread his sentences. Quote: Everything that I read about the Watchmen and specifically the stuff coming from the fanboys (you all) sounds like crap. The trailer was retarded and I just can't get over how dumb it all looks. He mentioned the trailer last. The first thing he mentioned was everything he's read about Watchmen in general. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at August 20, 2008, 11:18 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite Oh Jesus Christ! They're two completely different media! How many goddamn movies have you seen translated from a book that are 100% similar to the source material, including the success? The book can be great the movie a failure. Or vice versa. The fate of one story in a different media does not immediately seal the fate of its translation to another. He thought the TRAILER was "retarded". He said NOTHING ABOUT THE BOOK. They are not the same thing! He can think the book is the end all be all of literature and still think the trailer is "retarded". While it is unfair to berate him just for not liking the trailer (I didn't even like it until after I read the book), this movie and the book are pretty much the same thing. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electriclite at August 20, 2008, 10:42 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen Your point? He's talking about Watchmen. Trailer. Movie. Whatever. He's wants it to not come out ever because he thinks it's "Retarded." Well, sorry bub, read the graphic novel and then come back and call it retarded if you want. Oh Jesus Christ! They're two completely different media! How many goddamn movies have you seen translated from a book that are 100% similar to the source material, including the success? The book can be great the movie a failure. Or vice versa. The fate of one story in a different media does not immediately seal the fate of its translation to another. He thought the TRAILER was "retarded". He said NOTHING ABOUT THE BOOK. They are not the same thing! He can think the book is the end all be all of literature and still think the trailer is "retarded". | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 20, 2008, 9:42 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite He's not talking about the book he's talking about the trailer. Your point? He's talking about Watchmen. Trailer. Movie. Whatever. He's wants it to not come out ever because he thinks it's "Retarded." Well, sorry bub, read the graphic novel and then come back and call it retarded if you want. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thedudeman69 at August 20, 2008, 8:57 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | What's strange is in 20 years or so, this shit will still be happening. Studios will express way too much control over the films they green light. the filmmaker will not have any say(but he/she don't with all the studioheads, the MPAA, and the Public on their back.) I mean shit, right now is probably a bad time to be a filmmaker | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electriclite at August 20, 2008, 8:34 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen Read the graphic novel before you decide that it's "retarded." He's not talking about the book he's talking about the trailer. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thedudeman69 at August 20, 2008, 8:29 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Raimo69 Why i know there are two different things and everything but think about. If this legal thing some how stops w atchmen do you think they will never release. I don't understand Fox cancels Arrested Devlopment, halts Watchmen, and yet releases a new hit indy movie every year under the Searchlight banner? How the fuck is that possible? Is it so hard to let something be? I mean, sure it's lost revenue, but they can make it up with the stupid reality shows they air. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: lennyd43 at August 20, 2008, 8:13 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Pretty interesting article about WB vs FOX lawsuit with FOX mentioning that they rather see this film shelved than collecting money from box office , and how this may affect FOX's release of Wolverine. http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/...n.html?eref=ew Either way, the movie will be released as scheduled. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thedudeman69 at August 20, 2008, 7:56 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Raimo69 Does anyone think that watchmen will go the trick r treat way and not get released? Jesus, I cannot believe you brought up those two movies in the same sentence | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 20, 2008, 7:55 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by KingofKings2525 This is not a fanboy thing because I know that the Watchmen will not over shadow The Dark Knight. Also, to say that TDK fanboys hate the Watchmen just because it might over shadow it doesn't make the Watchmen fanboys any better. The movie isn't even close to being released and people have already anointed it the greatest film ever. Everything that I read about the Watchmen and specifically the stuff coming from the fanboys (you all) sounds like crap. The trailer was retarded and I just can't get over how dumb it all looks. Maybe I'm just pissed because I had an open mind and ordered the book on Amazon a few weeks ago but got screwed and it never came so now when I hear Watchmen I immediately think bad things. Read the graphic novel before you decide that it's "retarded." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: floydtheater07 at August 20, 2008, 6:49 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by KingofKings2525 Everything that I read about the Watchmen and specifically the stuff coming from the fanboys (you all) sounds like crap. The trailer was retarded and I just can't get over how dumb it all looks. Everything? The fact that it is the only comic on Time Magazine's 100 Greatest English Language Novels from 1923 to the present "sounds like crap"? The fact that it is the only comic to win the Hugo Award? The fact that it has been cited as an influence by everyone from the creator of The Incredibles to the creators of Lost? The fact that it is regarded as quite possibly the greatest work ever produced in superhero comics (and possibly the comic book medium) of all time? I LOVED The Dark Knight, but when compared to the story, characters, themes, relevance, etc, of Watchmen, it's child's play. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: KingofKings2525 at August 20, 2008, 5:41 pm | | Topic: The Official WATCHMEN Anticipation Thread Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by vesaker no offense but isnt this how almost every batman fan boy acted as soon as the credits finished rolling on Begins? Yes, well... more so when they saw the first trailer/teaser. For the record I hated Batman Begins and went into TDK thinking it would be mediocre... obviously (Avatar and favorite movie) I was pleased to see the complete opposite. I wouldn't consider myself a Batman fanboy, not yet anyways | | Static Link |
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