| Posted by: psycheoutsteve at April 4, 2008, 3:53 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by DaMovieMan I agree with you that the film is overrated but you got the character of Tom Bell figured out all wrong. He is definitely NOT the know-it-all cop because his fundamental problem in the film is that he doesn't understand the violence around him and can't do anything about it. His character from the Fugtive would never retire just like that and would keep looking for Chigurh because he would believe that he can catch him (i.e. know-it-all). Being a know-it-all cop doesn't necessarily have to do with how a character is motivated. When Bell encounters the aftermath of a drug deal gone wrong, he points out every possible detail to his partner and wouldn't you know...he's right. His character knows a lot more about the violence around him than you say he does, he just chooses not to act on it. He definitely knew what type of person Chigurh was, he knew what was out there waiting for him. Ya, he retired, he's not as persistent as his character from the fugitive, but he shares ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at April 4, 2008, 3:26 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | I agree with you that the film is overrated but you got the character of Tom Bell figured out all wrong. He is definitely NOT the know-it-all cop because his fundamental problem in the film is that he doesn't understand the violence around him and can't do anything about it. His character from the Fugtive would never retire just like that and would keep looking for Chigurh because he would believe that he can catch him (i.e. know-it-all). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: psycheoutsteve at April 4, 2008, 3:18 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaStrangelove I don't know how you can say that. He was the polar opposite as he was in The Fugitive. I think the character from The Fugitive would have caught Anton. How you can compare these two characters, aside from them being played by Tommy Lee Jones, is mind boggling. "Alright, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for ninety minutes. Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of six miles. What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area. Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles. Your fugitive's name is Dr. Richard Kimble. Go get him." - Tommy Lee Jones looking for a criminal in The Fugitive. "What do we circulate? Lookin' for a man who recently drunk milk?" - Tommy Lee Jones, looking for a criminal in No Country Sigh... It's like watching Unforgiven and saying "Ther... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at April 4, 2008, 2:16 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by psycheoutsteve This film could've been really good, but Tommy Lee Jones just ruined the movie for me. Why does he have to play the same character from the fugitive over and over in different movies? It's the same here, only he's just older and more depressed... I don't know how you can say that. He was the polar opposite as he was in The Fugitive. I think the character from The Fugitive would have caught Anton. How you can compare these two characters, aside from them being played by Tommy Lee Jones, is mind boggling. "Alright, listen up, people. Our fugitive has been on the run for ninety minutes. Average foot speed over uneven ground barring injuries is 4 miles-per-hour. That gives us a radius of six miles. What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area. Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles. Your fugitive's name is Dr. Richard Kimble. Go get him." - Tom... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: psycheoutsteve at April 4, 2008, 12:32 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | This film could've been really good, but Tommy Lee Jones just ruined the movie for me. Why does he have to play the same character from the fugitive over and over in different movies? It's the same here, only he's just older and more depressed... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at March 30, 2008, 11:23 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | It's a brilliant movie. I can definitely see how some could find it anti-climactic but I thought the ending fit very well to the tone and theme of the piece. Great stuff. And some of the best tension I've felt in a movie in ages, and it didn't even have a score! Awesome. 10/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sgizzy316 at March 30, 2008, 11:20 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | My initial opinion on the movie was that it sucked, but after a few times watching it, and a lot more understanding it was phenomenal | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Monotreme at March 26, 2008, 4:58 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Yeah, I just finished reading the novel... The film IS a pretty faithful adaptation, but the book is worth reading if only to take in and enjoy Cormac McCarthy's really unique and great writing style. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DarthWade at March 25, 2008, 3:39 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mr.HyDe807 The book plays out almost exactly like the film, with a little tweaks here and there. Yeah, i saw this for the third time, (bought the dvd), this past couple days. My perfect rating still stands, but my dad and brother in law liked it until that certain scene. I figured they wouldn't, and i tried to explain the reason behind it, but they still didn't enjoy it. Whatever, tis their views, i'm not gonna disagree with them. I think I'll pick it up...I love this story, so it'll be awesome. Thanks. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mr.HyDe807 at March 25, 2008, 3:28 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by DarthWade If this was asked before, I apologize, but has anyone read the original book? What are your feelings about the book/movie (differences, etc). I was thinking of trying to get it but I'd like to get some input about it. The book plays out almost exactly like the film, with a little tweaks here and there. Yeah, i saw this for the third time, (bought the dvd), this past couple days. My perfect rating still stands, but my dad and brother in law liked it until that certain scene. I figured they wouldn't, and i tried to explain the reason behind it, but they still didn't enjoy it. Whatever, tis their views, i'm not gonna disagree with them. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DarthWade at March 25, 2008, 3:04 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | If this was asked before, I apologize, but has anyone read the original book? What are your feelings about the book/movie (differences, etc). I was thinking of trying to get it but I'd like to get some input about it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at March 21, 2008, 1:55 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | The first few times I watched it, that's what I thought too. Now I think that maybe Anton was looking at his shoes because Carla Jean shit herself when she saw him standing there, and he ended up walking in it on the way out. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Trail_Blazer at March 21, 2008, 12:55 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Just saw this on DVD for the first time. Damned fine movie. Really really enjoyed it. Really makes you think, and very engaging. I'm not sure if it was a better movie than "There Will Be Blood" though. That was a fucking fantastic flick..... Hard to decide, but I guess I'm not disappointed with it's Oscar win for Best Pic, and DDL's win for Best Actor. EDIT: *SPOILERS* One other thing I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to (and I've not read the entire thread so sorry if it's been asked before).... But Chighur killed Llewellyn's wife near the end there, right? The scene right after she refuses to pick head or tails, shows Chighur walking out of the front door of the house, checking the bottom's of his feet for what I would presume to be blood.... Since earlier in the film after he killed Woody Harrelson's character, he made sure not to get blood on his shoes.... Am I right on that? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DarthWade at March 17, 2008, 2:50 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | I won't be adding anything new to this thread, but I just watched this on the week and I have to say I still can't stop thinking about it. It's amazing. The acting was outstanding and I have to say I was in the "zone" with this movie - it pulled me in from the beginning and I was mesmerized the whole time. Without a doubt this movie is going to be shown in a lot of film schools for years to come (although that may be a bad thing). I think I may like this even more than I did Fargo. I'll have to re-watch it again, but right now that's how I feel. I think it's the best acting TLJ has ever done too. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EVILxxx at March 16, 2008, 8:46 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Lost in Space It does look like it is coming out the back. What exactly is he firing out of it? It's called a captive bolt pistol. It's a device that shoots out a bolt to knock out cattle to make the slaughtering process more humane. It retracts after being fired so there wouldn't be an exit wound. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: therealjohng at March 16, 2008, 8:38 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by nman406 Doesn't Bell state that there is no exit wound? It was his deputy that says it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lost in Space at March 16, 2008, 7:14 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by EVILxxx Yeah I think the violent whiplash makes it look as if there is blood exiting out the back. It does look like it is coming out the back. What exactly is he firing out of it? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EVILxxx at March 15, 2008, 6:18 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Yeah I think the violent whiplash makes it look as if there is blood exiting out the back. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at March 14, 2008, 3:31 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by nman406 Doesn't Bell state that there is no exit wound? I don't think those are his brains flying out; looks like a little smoke or something. It "floats" up offscreen. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at March 14, 2008, 9:02 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by nman406 Doesn't Bell state that there is no exit wound? It looks as though the mist is in the front . . . | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nman406 at March 14, 2008, 1:21 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by someguy I meant to post this because I made it the instant I could get my hands on a good version of the movie online Doesn't Bell state that there is no exit wound? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheDeadWalk at March 12, 2008, 9:55 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite For future reference, traditionally the criteria for "pandering" for an Oscar falls under these guidelines: The actor is playing an: alcoholic/ mental/physically disabled person and is routinely screaming/flailing their arms about/ breaking things, etc... You forgot two words: Jewish and Holocaust. Quote: Originally Posted by electriclite Dude, don't be juvenile with the replies. Er, sorry. *Spoilers for the film.* Anyways, I loved the film. However, I have to say that while Moss was not THE lead character, he was A lead character. It was disappointing to see him go down the way he did. Same with Carson's character. (What the hell was he even brought in for?!) I just felt as an audience member that I was expecting so much more, especially with the high level of tension and buildup between Anton and Moss which did not get to have its deserved peak. It's kind of like the whole movie, you're waiting to exhale... but find out that you've farted instead. Still th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: auge_28 at March 11, 2008, 3:15 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 I don't use Netflix . . . and I'm buying it tomorrow. Ratz .. . . foiled again. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at March 11, 2008, 3:09 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 HAH!!! The stars lined up for me . . . I get No Country For Old Men from Netflix tomorrow . . . I am going to keep it for 18 months so that you guys have to wait longer. Thats just the kind of dick I am . . . so, chock on it. I don't use Netflix . . . and I'm buying it tomorrow. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at March 11, 2008, 12:23 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | HAH!!! The stars lined up for me . . . I get No Country For Old Men from Netflix tomorrow . . . I am going to keep it for 18 months so that you guys have to wait longer. Thats just the kind of dick I am . . . so, chock on it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at March 7, 2008, 8:26 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaStrangelove I can't help it. This guy has inspired me. Max Cady, this one is for you - SPOILERS FOR NO COUNTRY - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...82758061&hl=en OH MY GOD hahahahaha Bubba you're the man. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at March 7, 2008, 2:24 am | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | I can't help it. This guy has inspired me. Max Cady, this one is for you - SPOILERS FOR NO COUNTRY - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...82758061&hl=en | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at March 6, 2008, 11:26 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 Are you suggesting that Bell retiered because of his fear of Anton? Or am I misreading your point? I think so, at least in part. We've already discussed the whole losing his faith and all that. Anton had a lot to do with that. Quote: Originally Posted by Max Cady I was watching Glen Beck the other day and even he was clownin this movie. LOL!!!! Yeah, I go to Glenn Beck too for opinions on movies. Ahhh . . . I got a good laugh at that. And the Karate Kid movies are good, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them classics. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Max Cady at March 6, 2008, 10:49 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Briare Rabbit No, we don't. There are plenty of great films where the main character/a character dies offscreen. Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Karate Kid is far from top 5000 of all time. And plenty of great films have no soundtrack... No Country for Old Men for example. Funny how u can only name no country..... It's overated, get over it bro. I was watching Glen Beck the other day and even he was clownin this movie. Karate Kid 1 & 2 are classics bro. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at March 6, 2008, 8:55 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Bubba propositions bigred and DaMovieMan for a round of "bro hugs". Seriously dudes, I sometimes should have gone to bed up 12 hours ago. While my points and observations may actually be quite good, my manner of making them sometimes is lacking in patience and maybe civility. Yeah, you guys got what I'm talking about. I'm sorry I had to act like my pussy hurt to get here. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at March 6, 2008, 3:07 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 And this fear of the unknown, the "ghost" if you will, is what leads him to retirement/quit. Are you suggesting that Bell retiered because of his fear of Anton? Or am I misreading your point? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at March 6, 2008, 2:30 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaStrangelove Jesus Christ people. I said there are people who have said his presence has supernatural-like qualities. (It's the english language: That "hyphened like" doesn't indicate something that is, but something that resembles on some level.) How the hell you can act like you've never heard this is beyond me. Did you even watch the movie? Read this thread? Ghost? Where did that come from? It came from the movie - The Sheriff refers to him as a ghost, which I think warrants saying that people refer to him having supernatural-like qualities. I mean, unless you believe in ghosts. It's been discussed to death in this thread. I think someone in here compared him to the terminator. What Huh? Would have everyone got what I meant if I said I'd heard people refer to him as a cyborg from the future? Where did that come from, indeed! Do I think he has supernatural powers? No, but no one ever asked me. Do I think it's an otherwise interesting discussion to talk about the m... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: DaMovieMan at March 6, 2008, 2:24 pm | | Topic: No Country for Old Men Forum: JoBlo | | Anton was probably in the other room then. I doubt it was Bell's imagination/fear. I remember when i saw it twice i thought that either a) he was in another room or b) he was there earlier and the Coens were just messing around with us by cross-cutting time. As for Max Cady, it's official that he's a troll. Karate Kid top 5? On what planet? It was fun while it lasted but i'm not wasting my time on this anymore. And Bubba, I didn't read the whole thread, it's very big, i came in when i saw the film which was somewhere in the middle of the thread. I remember people saying terminator-like qualities etc. but i just think it's ridiculous to suggest that when it's obvious Anton is just a human (a lucky human, but a human nonetheless) and doesn't have any sort of supernatural powers. Bell calls him a ghost as a figure of speech, not to be taken literaly (like you said)... Quote: I was just adding the fact that Bell looks at Anton as a ghost, and also bringing up that many people have attributed him to having super... | | Read Entire Entry |
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