| Posted by: Weapon X at April 4, 2003, 10:18 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Professional its sad that people mistake ambiguity for simplicity. Ambiguity is fine, but not when it takes the place of a fleshed-out story. Guys like David Lynch are masters at the perfect ratio of story details to artistic ambiguity, but I didn't sense any of that in Ringu; all I got were holes and unecessary narrative shortcuts. And who says The Ring didn't use some of that same ambiguity? In Ringu, we're told Sadako is the daughter of a psychic, so that explains her powers right off the bat. All that's known about Samara Morgan is that she was adopted from a mother who "died of complications", and she has these eerie power that force her to hurt others. Where did she get these powers? What kind of "complications" did her real mother die of? And why does she feel this irresistable need to hurt people? Finally there's the resolution... (SPOILERS) ...that in order to survive the video's curse, you have to make a copy. Ringu spells it out too much: you hav... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 4, 2003, 8:11 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Weapon X Why did I find Verbinski's version better? Ringu takes thing more simply than The Ring...to the point that things are TOO simple. What Ringu had in scares, it lacked in characterization. The script didn't tell enough about the characters other than their relations to one another its sad that people mistake ambiguity for simplicity. The Ring is a monumental piece of shit. its additional sub plots are ridiculious, acting wooden, dialogue shit, the additional explanations were hokey, and the climax scene was not half that of the other thanks to CGI. what a shit pile. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Weapon X at April 4, 2003, 12:13 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Because no one demanded it, here's my take: The American version is better. And yes, I do have some legitimate reasons for believing that. I'll give Ringu credit; it did make me jump a couple times, particularly during such scenes as "corpse in the closet" and when the kid is watching the tape (the music helped on that one). And Sadako's trip through the TV screen did send a chill down my spine that wasn't as present when I watched Samara do the same thing. Don't get my wrong, when I saw Samara, the first thing out of my mouth was "Holy shit!", but Sadako made me feel the hairs on my back standing up. Why did I find Verbinski's version better? Ringu takes thing more simply than The Ring...to the point that things are TOO simple. What Ringu had in scares, it lacked in characterization. The script didn't tell enough about the characters other than their relations to one another, so I honestly didn't give a damn about any of them, unlike in The Ring where I was rooting for Rachel to solve th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Kim_EZ at March 26, 2003, 1:07 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | The Ring Virus is pointless. Just a regurgitation with boring performances and non-likeable characters. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Heavenley at March 25, 2003, 10:21 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | After recently seeing THE RING, I had to go and rent RINGU. I'm not a fan of subtitled movies but I made an exception for this one. Although it didn't have the special effects of the American one and definitely not as scary as The Ring, but it was definitely a chiller. Best to watch this one first. Ringu 8/10 The Ring 8.5/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: JofaGuht at March 25, 2003, 6:33 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | I liked the American version as much as the next guy, but this was great. Espescially the moral of the story and the symbolism, which the American version did not have. Also Sadako's motive was a lot better. This one was slower, but much more powerful. I've seen all the Ring movies and here they are with my rating: Ringu(8/10) Rasen [aka Ring: Spiral] (9/10) THAT WAS THE BEST! The Ring 2 (6.5/10) The Ring 0: Birthday (4/10) stupid one The Ring Virus [Korean Remake] (7/10) The Ring [American Remake] (7/10) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Kim_EZ at March 23, 2003, 4:45 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | The remake can't touch the original. Ringu (no need to call it this because this is just the English romanization...) -> 8/10 The Ring -> 6.5/10 My dad said it best after he watched the remake... "It looked just like the Japanese movie. What was so different?" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lyle Waggoner at March 17, 2003, 11:09 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Professional i imagine this could all be attributed to the hack writer Ehren Kruger. the ambiguity of the original was an asset that was tossed away in the remake. The Ring(2002) - 4/10 Ringu - 8/10 I agree with you that the remake wasn't half as good as the original (although it wasn't terrible), but if you enjoyed the ambiguity of the original, you'll probably be appalled if you watch the Japanese sequels - Rasen, Spiral, etc... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lyle Waggoner at March 17, 2003, 11:05 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | It's not the most terrifying film ever made, but in my opinion, it features the most terrifying scene I've ever witnessed (the climax with the TV, of course). The remake flubbed this sequence completely. I whimpered like a little girl that's just seen a man in full S&M gear leap out of her closet (not that I know what that sounds like) when I watched it, and later that night, my wife was in hysterics when I refused to turn the lights out when we went to sleep. Coupled with that, I've got a bad habit of forgetting to turn the TV off at night.... aaaaaah!!!!! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Professional at March 16, 2003, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Moviefreek RINGU- 7/10 The Ring-9/10 our tastes must be quite divergent, because i found Ringu to be quite good, while i found the ring to be a piece of dog shit. problems i had with the ring: 1. acting was horrible. maybe the acting was horrible in the japanese one but this was almost unbearable. 2. elements of the originals plot expanded for no reason to create tedium. 3. japanese atmosphere substituted by fancy filtering techniques and CGI. the ending of the remake did not chill me at all. 4.long passages of stupid dialogue for the purpose of revealing the plot and boring me. i imagine this could all be attributed to the hack writer Ehren Kruger. the ambiguity of the original was an asset that was tossed away in the remake. The Ring(2002) - 4/10 Ringu - 8/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Creeper at March 14, 2003, 11:02 pm | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Ringu surprised me. Even after hearing all of the great stuff about it, and having loved the remake, I didn't expect to really like it. Fortunately I did. I thought that the subtitles would throw me off and take away from the feel of the movie, but after awhile I barely noticed them. The plot is the same for the most part so it was pretty easy to follow up to a point. Then, I got confused, and I picked it up right before the end, which surprisingly I found better than the remake's ending. (I'm talking about the "TV" scene)And at one point in the movie, I actually jumped like a little girl. It was embarassing, but fortunately my girlfriend doesn't make fun of me for it. Overall, I'd say it is exactly on par with its hollywood counterpart Ringu-8.5/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Moviefreek at March 9, 2003, 11:43 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Trailer for the remake is on it and as for the sound being that it is subtitled, the jap voices are low key and hard to hear at times and some times not able to hear at all. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RavenFlame at March 9, 2003, 1:42 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | Sorry, double post. I was talking about the RINGU dvd, i already have THE RING. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RavenFlame at March 9, 2003, 1:39 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | How Was the DVD? Were there any Easter Eggs, or was the Trailer for the remake on it? I've looked everywhere, no one has reviwed the presentation or sound of the DVD, WTF? lol | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Moviefreek at March 8, 2003, 12:00 am | | Topic: Ringu(1998) Forum: JoBlo | | I do not think this one needs any introduction because as you all know this is the original version of "The Ring" which was released in the U.S.A. Infact the Japanese word "RINGU" refers to the ringing of the telephone not an actual ring as protrayed in the american version. Just a little back drop for all ya'll. This version was good also, not as good as the american version I feel. What goes on in The Ring is explained much better than what comes about in Ringu. The acting was solid in Ringu, thou when watching it, it is subtitled so some reading must be done in order to watch the film. Ringu goes more for the creep build up. It doesn't have special effects like The Ring did, but it works just as well. I felt the ending to Ringu was good, it gave me the same feeling as The Ring did. The endings to both films are pretty equal in their presnetation. The ending to RINGU is different than the ring. Overall, its a pretty good time. Not as shocking as The Ring but just as creepy. RINGU- 7/10 ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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