| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at February 3, 2008, 5:21 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by MansooLee My take on the Life Aquatic is that it is all fake, the movie we see is the documentary he shows off. Everything is set up just to get the recognition back. There was no shark, there was no death, just a big ploy by Murray and Huston. I think that certain elements seemed kind of fake. Ultimately, I don't think there was no character development in Zissou, and the film was about him pulling a scam. If the movie we see is all a documentary, how exactly did they get that hidden camera to track through the boat like that with no one noticing? There are points in the movie, though, when what we see is as it is presented through Zissou's mind, indicated by overall change in color tone, namely when everything takes on a blue hint at the point when Zissou overtakes the pirates and then switching back.... I believe when Ned is wounded, but I haven't seen it in about a year. The only reason I remark on you theory, is because I think you are right that there is a movie within a mov... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Raoul Duke at February 3, 2008, 1:56 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Heart Collector I think the main reason why people say he's treading ground is because of Life Aquatic. It was advertised as an adventure thing, had all these adventure qualities to it, but it was more like a traditional Wes Anderson comedy/drama in a weird setting. His other movies feel like they're the only thing they could possibly be. While I enjoyed The Life Aquatic immensely, I felt that he could have also done something different, added a little bit more action, made it a little more fantastic. He had the claymation creatures, for example, but they hardly figured in the movie. He had a lot of cool gadgets in the ship, but they hardly figured. In a way it felt like Wes Anderson was afraid of doing a straight-up action/adventure film. I mean, it seems silly to spend that insane budget to have all those things as mere backdrop and have relatively weak action (the ship scene, the island scene, the somewhat anticlimactic shark discovery). He even admitted that even though th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: MansooLee at February 3, 2008, 12:28 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | My take on the Life Aquatic is that it is all fake, the movie we see is the documentary he shows off. Everything is set up just to get the recognition back. There was no shark, there was no death, just a big ploy by Murray and Huston. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Rawlin67 at February 3, 2008, 8:01 am | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | andersons one of those guys that has a certain, distinct style that you could never accidentally call someone elses. some directors do that, others just splurge around with a whole bunch of styles and such. wes is a master at what he does though, there are few that can match that kind of humor with such a dark undertone. and somehow, still make it all seem really beautiful. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at February 3, 2008, 7:37 am | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Heart Collector I think the main reason why people say he's treading ground is because of Life Aquatic. It was advertised as an adventure thing, had all these adventure qualities to it, but it was more like a traditional Wes Anderson comedy/drama in a weird setting. His other movies feel like they're the only thing they could possibly be. While I enjoyed The Life Aquatic immensely, I felt that he could have also done something different, added a little bit more action, made it a little more fantastic. He had the claymation creatures, for example, but they hardly figured in the movie. He had a lot of cool gadgets in the ship, but they hardly figured. In a way it felt like Wes Anderson was afraid of doing a straight-up action/adventure film. I mean, it seems silly to spend that insane budget to have all those things as mere backdrop and have relatively weak action (the ship scene, the island scene, the somewhat anticlimactic shark discovery). He even admitted that even though th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: biff_debris at January 31, 2008, 10:04 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | I agree with Scarfather -- Wes Anderson films are like David Lynch films and Tim Burton films. They're immediately recognizable as to who made them, since they're more than likely part of who made them. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at January 31, 2008, 12:38 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | I think the main reason why people say he's treading ground is because of Life Aquatic. It was advertised as an adventure thing, had all these adventure qualities to it, but it was more like a traditional Wes Anderson comedy/drama in a weird setting. His other movies feel like they're the only thing they could possibly be. While I enjoyed The Life Aquatic immensely, I felt that he could have also done something different, added a little bit more action, made it a little more fantastic. He had the claymation creatures, for example, but they hardly figured in the movie. He had a lot of cool gadgets in the ship, but they hardly figured. In a way it felt like Wes Anderson was afraid of doing a straight-up action/adventure film. I mean, it seems silly to spend that insane budget to have all those things as mere backdrop and have relatively weak action (the ship scene, the island scene, the somewhat anticlimactic shark discovery). He even admitted that even though the movie came out to be what he wanted, he regret... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: chasingbanky at January 31, 2008, 4:49 am | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | I was talking about Wes the other day with fellow schmoe CosmicPuppet, and I was saying I thought all his movies were just about him.... Therefore his characters are mimicking him, and not the other way around in my eyes. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at January 31, 2008, 3:44 am | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | I see where you are coming from, THC. Except, that I think he always looked like an oddball - Bottle Rocket days he looks a bit Tim Burton-in-technicolor-ish. I think the evolution of his personal style, as with his films, has been contingent on his establishment in Hollywood and his continuously exceeding budgets. The real difference I see between now and then is that e just seems to be spending more money. He has a tailor, appears to be getting fake tans, having his hair styled --- Anjelica Huston actually pointed out during Aquatic that suddenly he went from looking like a dork to a handsome man, using nicer words tho. I don't understand the "retreading ground" criticism. I've talked, and was disagreed with, that all great auteurs retread themes and moods, not because they are out of ideas, or no longer creative, but because they are doing what they know. It's the directors and writers who try to do something alien to them that fail. I don't like Anderson because of quirky characters or because ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Scarfather at January 25, 2008, 6:21 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | I think Wes Anderson will be one of very few filmmakers of this generation who is as remembered as much as a persona as he was as a filmmaker because his films aren't just films, they are extensions of himself: part of a style and world he's created. People can complain all they want about them being too similar, but that's the point. He isn't pointing a camera at anybody else, he's pointing the camera at himself in a way, there's actors and sets and plots and whatnot, but they're all part of a universe he's created. It's like a Wes Anderson mythos. Like Hitchcock, or Kubrick, or even Fellini, where you could be presented with a film by any one of them that you have never seen before, have any knowledge of at all, and you would know that they did it immediately just based on style alone. That's unique and nearly unseen nowadays. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at January 25, 2008, 3:31 pm | | Topic: wes anderson is a character of his own movies Forum: JoBlo | | i noticed something i thought was funny/weird. y'know how wes anderson gets bitched at recently because his movies are too elaborate? like, ever since life aquatic (and to a lesser extent, with darjeeling), people complain that it's all too fakey and that the costumes and details are so excessive? i was watching the dvds for the life aquatic and the royal tenenbaums. they both have documentaries about the creation of the movies. if you see the documentary for the royal tenenbaums, wes looks relatively normal. he has a normal haircut (a shitty one, tbqh), wears regular-ass clothes, sneakers, etc. he wears the odd blazer or what not but he looks like a normal human being. HOWEVER if you look at the documentary for the life aquatic, he's always wearing suits or jackets/matching pants, with nice scarves, always looks very "dressed" (like he took his sweet ass time to dress himself and match it), has a very nice and distinctive haircut, etc. then i read on his wikipedia that he regularly gets attention ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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