| Posted by: Hannibal21 at June 30, 2003, 9:13 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Oh come on now, you guys love this movie, you just don't know if yet. Anyways, this was one big surprise for me......in a good way. After hearing so many negative reviews about it I decided to check it out to see just how bad it is. And I'm so glad I watched, surely one of the most underrated, underappreciated movies of 2002. The acting were top notch, especially Rebecca Romijn-Stamos who have never proven to me to be very talented, but after this movie she proved her acting talent to me. She can be both a good actress and sexy at the same time, I love this woman! Anyone here think she was robbed of an oscar nom? The plot did have it's flaws but overall the movie was extremely entertaining, stylish and sexy. Will go down as one of my favorite guilty pleasures of all time, except this one was quite clever and original. The ending was totally unexpected, one of the best endings I have seen in years, everything was just put together so well in this mysterious, intriguing tale. 8.5/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: badberry at June 25, 2003, 9:56 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Haha, glad to see some others really didn't like this movie. I agree that a lot of it was fairly boring and pointless. And the 'plot twist' near the end is completely rediculous, and it goes even further downhill afterwards. The movie starts out pretty good (I mean come on, a lesbian sex scene can't be bad, even if it is rather silly) but quickly degenerates into a muddled and confusing mess that you just don't care about anymore, especially once you realize there will be no more lesbian sex! I did enjoy watching Rebecca strut her stuff (she is HOT), but her acting is terrible. At several points, my friends and I were simply left saying "What the fuck is with this movie??" especially at the end, where the movie gets incredibly stupid, after coming so close to finally making sense. Leaves you shaking your head, and not in the good way. Very stylish, but overall quite disappointing. 4/10. Mulholland Dr. I agree was much better (7/10). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at June 25, 2003, 3:38 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Sad man Even 1/10 is a generous grade for it I kind of agree with that. It was just one horrible horrible horrible "movie." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sad man at June 24, 2003, 7:23 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mike To me, it actually feels more generous than anything. Even 1/10 is a generous grade for it | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2003, 1:11 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by AppleHuntr (2/10 Mike? thats so harsh! ) To me, it actually feels more generous than anything. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: AppleHuntr at June 24, 2003, 2:33 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | 8/10 B+ I really liked this film, it kept me hooked from the kick arse opening and while it never topped it it was still an intriguing thriller. Mrs. John Stamos was surprisingly good here and I loved the whole cheesy feel of the movie. Its not perfect, it drags in parts, but I enjoyed it. (2/10 Mike? thats so harsh! ) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deckard at June 16, 2003, 11:45 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | I watched this purely because its a De Palma film and man did I get one. The casting is really a clue to take it all with a grain of salt. Rebecca Ramjon and Antonio are not exactly great thespians, but man there fun to watch in this. Hamming it up throughout and obviously having a good time. Shame Peter Coyote does not receive more screen time. With an opening to rival Dressed to Kill in the memorable raunchy stakes the film oozes stylized Euro sexuality. The script does contain a few cringe moments but they are easily forgotten, as you marvel at DePalma's high concept camera tricks and understanding of the art of cinema to tell a story and engage. Sure its got faults, sure its pretentious but if your a DePalma fan you will find this a bold little heist film with as usual an epic vision by its director that is not quite met, but comes mighty close. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at June 16, 2003, 11:14 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Sad man Same here! This is one of the worst movies ever made. I completely hate it!!! I can't belive how bad this movie was. The worst movie of 2002. Grade: or 1/10 or F- I see you finally got around to checking it out. I remember you asking awhile back if it was really THAT horrible, and I guess now you found out. I feel your pain. My rating changed to a 2/10 (F), because I couldn't live with myself if I gave it a 3/10 (D-), it was just too high of a grade. It truly deserves an F in my eyes, which is the same rating Entertainment Weekly gave it back when it was in theaters. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sad man at June 16, 2003, 4:23 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BakeTheMooCow A really really horrible film.. words cannot express how I hate it. 1/10 is exactly right. Same here! This is one of the worst movies ever made. I completely hate it!!! I can't belive how bad this movie was. The worst movie of 2002. Grade: or 1/10 or F- | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BakeTheMooCow at April 7, 2003, 5:53 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by PorcheRacer I turned it off after an hour. I just couldn't get into it at all. The movie dragged and felt pointless. The first 20 minutes weren't stylish or cool, they were confusing and amateur. Since I didn't see it all, I can't give it a rating but if I had to rate it I would give it a 3/10. I feel your pain PorcheRacer. When I saw it in theaters, I was feeling so uncomfortable and distracted because I just wanted to get the hell out of there. It was unbearable at about the point where Rebecca Romijn-Stamos is in the tub. I didn't care what happened to the character anymore. So for the first time ever, I walked out of a movie. Then I came to these boards and checked some reviews and people talked about a twist ending and all that. So I downloaded it and watched the rest (in great pain) and it was even worse than the beginning. A really really horrible film.. words cannot express how I hate it. 1/10 is exactly right. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at April 6, 2003, 11:16 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by PorcheRacer I turned it off after an hour. I just couldn't get into it at all. The movie dragged and felt pointless. The first 20 minutes weren't stylish or cool, they were confusing and amateur. Since I didn't see it all, I can't give it a rating but if I had to rate it I would give it a 3/10.
Porche, what a cop-out, you should have suffered through it like I did... If you thought the first hour was bad, then you should have watched the rest. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lazy Boy at April 6, 2003, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | I seriously believe that if more people gave Femme Fatale a chance in theaters, it would've been more than just a cult hit. Brian DePalma is back in fine form for this 2002 release, after suffering through nearly a decade without a decent film (his last watchable one was the underrated Carlito's Way). Was the man spinning his wheels with junk like Snake Eyes and Mission to Mars? Apparently so, as no twisty camera shots or long takes could disguise the fact that the man was running out of parlor tricks. Femme Fatale is a film where DePalma finally brings it all together, all the stunts and tricks, into one deliciously entertaining, trashy film. It's interesting upon one viewing, but now, after seeing it three times, there are so many little details that I missed the first time, that it all adds up to the enjoyment. The photo collage created in the film by the Antonio Banderas character is in fact the director winking at his fans (and many critics) that all of this is a big in-joke, and if you're not with it, ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: PorcheRacer at April 6, 2003, 5:57 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | I turned it off after an hour. I just couldn't get into it at all. The movie dragged and felt pointless. The first 20 minutes weren't stylish or cool, they were confusing and amateur. Since I didn't see it all, I can't give it a rating but if I had to rate it I would give it a 3/10. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mulhollandrob at April 3, 2003, 12:35 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Femme Fatale-A unique kind of "badness" Starring: Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Antonio Banderas, Peter Coyote, Eriq Ebouaney, Edouard Montoute, Rie Rasmussen. Written and Directed by Brian De Palma Rated R for Nudity, Sexual Theme , Violence, Adult Language. Running Time 118 Mins Rating **** out **** by Rob Butler As an exercise in pure visual storytelling technique, Writer-Director Brian De Palma's "Femme Fatale" may be the year's most challenging cinematic experiences. The film is challenging much like "Memento" and David Lynch's "Mulholland Drive" and it's a type of film that you might get a different expression on each viewing. De Palma directs this caper film as if David Lynch directed hisself, it feels off, perverse, incoherent, but yet so hypnotic, and entertaining at the same time. While viewing the film you make ask yourself why it's so dumb, or why it's so perverse. Has De Palma went crazy? He directs "Femme Fatale" with a new realm of badness, until the ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 2, 2003, 6:40 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | ok. i understand. thanks. i agree with you on MD, but i cant figure basic instict. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at April 2, 2003, 6:19 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Professional ok then, if you dont want to give me a more comprehensive review, then how bout a frame of reference a la joblo by listing movies of this type and your ratings. then id understand. I'm not exactly sure what movies I could compare Femme Fatale to. The only obvious one would be Mulholland Drive (7/10 or B-). Femme Fatale wasn't really an erotic thriller, and you definitely couldn't compare it to regular erotic thrillers like Basic Instinct (8/10 or B+), so I'm really not too sure what to compare it to. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 2, 2003, 7:16 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | ok then, if you dont want to give me a more comprehensive review, then how bout a frame of reference a la joblo by listing movies of this type and your ratings. then id understand. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at April 1, 2003, 8:18 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Professional well, if you backed up your opinion with something less superficial than its boring and it repeats itself, i'd understand your opinion better. I really didn't have too much to say about the movie. I said what I liked and what I didn't like about it. And yes, I did say how boring it was quite a few times, but that's because it WAS and I couldn't stress that enough. And I think I have a pretty damn good attention span. I don't need movies that are all action all the time, in fact, most movies like that suck. I like a lot of character studies and slower paced movies. Movies that a lot of people find boring, I actually find interesting. So just because I found this movie boring, doesn't mean that I have a short attention span and certainly doesn't mean that I have bad taste. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 1, 2003, 2:48 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mike It was 3 AM and I was really tired and had to voice my opinion. And I don't care if you don't take my opinion seriously, but it's "my" opinion. well, if you backed up your opinion with something less superficial than its boring and it repeats itself, i'd understand your opinion better. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mike at April 1, 2003, 1:44 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by PorcheRacer How about you say something about the film instead of insulting Mike's "attention span." Thanks for that... And I'm sorry Professional if my review wasn't "professional" enough for you. I really wasn't trying to write a professional review. It was 3 AM and I was really tired and had to voice my opinion. And I don't care if you don't take my opinion seriously, but it's "my" opinion. Personally, I thought Mulholland Drive was much better. It was long and slow, yet really interesting and never boring. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 1, 2003, 11:12 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | how can you insult ones attention span? that was probably uncalled for but to give a valid review one musnt spend half the time telling us how boring it was. if he were to give some specific and legit arguments id understand his opinion. but you are correct, i should hold my mouth. ill post a review soon, gotta re-watch it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: PorcheRacer at April 1, 2003, 9:22 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Professional being that your taste is quite divergent from mine, im glad i don't take you as an authority on film, otherwise i would have missed this well made film. get an attention span. How about you say something about the film instead of insulting Mike's "attention span." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Professional at April 1, 2003, 9:16 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Femme Fatale could have been very good, but it goes so wrong in so many ways. I'm really disappointed. I never thought the movie would have been like it was, and I hate to have to say that this is one of the very worst movies I've seen of 2002. VIEWERS BEWARE: Proceed with caution! If you choose to watch it, then it's your funeral. being that your taste is quite divergent from mine, im glad i don't take you as an authority on film, otherwise i would have missed this well made film. get an attention span. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sleekproductions at April 1, 2003, 7:57 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | I seem to be in the minority here, but I think that Femme Fatale is a smart, sophisticated, and ultimately excellent, underrated thriller gem. Much like critic Roger Ebert, who gave this film **** (his highest rating), mind you, I was swept up in the world of style, seduction, and mind games. The attention to detail in this film is impeccable. I have watched this twice in the past two days already, and my second viewing was completely different from my first. I was able to notice more things, and make more sense of all of the plot complications. But this isn't only about style - oh no. On the surface, it is essentially a trashy thriller, yes, but on its mutiple, deeper levels it is a film about second chances, and the ability to do things over differently - given the chance. Our heroine (if you will) starts off by pulling a diamond heist, which in itself is one of the year's (2002) best, and most original scenes, and in the end, redeems herself from the horrible life that could have come upon her. Horrible y... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mike at April 1, 2003, 4:03 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | FEMME FATALE - 3/10 (D-) Do you ever have dreams where you watch a movie that you really want to see and it turns out to be absolutely horrible? Well, I certainly do, and if I hadn't already pinched myself several times I'd swear I just had one and didn't really see the movie Femme Fatale. Unfortunately, it wasn't just a dream. One thing I'm really confused about is the runtime. I've checked a few different resources and they have all said the same thing (114 minutes). But this just doesn't add up. I started the movie at 10:30 PM and it ended at 1:20 AM. How the hell could this happen? Plus, to top it all off, it seemed like it was AT LEAST 3 hours long. Even The Lord Of The Rings seemed shorter than this. Personally, I think there's some kind of conspiracy going on here. I think I must have gotten some cursed DVD that's longer than all of the other prints of it out there. So since I was actually lucky enough to make it through the movie alive, I'll probably die in 7 days. I think this movie should have borr... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: The Professional at March 28, 2003, 7:32 am | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by vtadave THey show her tits or what? yeah. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at March 25, 2003, 11:53 pm | | Topic: Femme Fatale Forum: JoBlo | | Femme Fatale *** (out of ****) 7.5 out of 10 Grade: B+ Directed by Brian DePalma Starring Rebecca Romijn Stamos, Antonio Banderas and Peter Coyote Femme Fatale is an intriguing, suspenseful, stylish and sexy thriller from Brian DePalma. The movie is nearly undone by a late in the game plot twist at the end which made me mad, but then made up for it and redeemed itself with some other interesting developments a few minutes later. Rebecca Romijn Stamos is surprisingly good in this movie. I mean I knew she was sexy (what heterosexual male doesn't) but I wasn't sure if she could pull of such a role. She does. I mean, she's no Linda Fiorentino, but she is quite good. Antonio Banderas is also good in one of his better performances since The Mask of Zorro. He seems to do alot of these kind of sexy erotic thrillers having also done Original Sin (not so good) and Never Talk to Strangers (which I thought was pretty good and underrated). I also have to mention the exquisitely shot and dynamic opening heist scene which ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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