| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at September 11, 2008, 7:38 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | I think there was intentional humor and that was the big difference. I'm sure there were moments, but I can't think of any jokes from the first Terminator. When he told the clerk at the police station "I'll be back." It was fucking funny but it wasn't executed like some big joke. The reason it was funny was because of what happened in follow up, and it was because of that it became popular from the film. By the time the second rolls around, it was merely a one-liner. The 2nd one was joke after joke from the moment the menacing killing machine enters the scene. "Bad to the Bone", for instance. What did that have to do with any character development from the film? He has sunglasses on, so now he's bad? It was just a joke and a great example of the difference between this and the initial Terminator film. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roy L Dennis at September 11, 2008, 7:29 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by rocknblues81 But you're a huge fan of that silly Army of Darkness? Don't see how you could like that movie and hate a movie like T2. Not trying to bash you, but it doesn't make sense to me. Well Army of darkness is clearly a slap stick comedy horror, where as the comedy in t2 is for the most part unintentional. I have already said I love terminator and don't think t2 worked as a sequel. Sarah Conner and John Conner are both annoying and its all too sunny bang bang, I like the bit were they go to the scientists house and he shows they the terminators arm and the bit were Arnie is on the roof firing the mini cannon. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rocknblues81 at August 30, 2008, 8:22 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 The second one does play more like a sci-fi action movie than the first; the first is more like a horror chase film, in my opinion. I do confess to enjoying the (groundbreaking) special effects in the 2nd one over the first . . . which became dated the minute the sequel came out. And not only is the tone different in the second than the first, but so are the characters. Sarah Connor went from a scared woman, to a freakin' commando who stabs her psychologist in the knee, doesn't flinch when some creep licks her face, and finds it okay to assassinate a guy hoping it changes the future. The Terminator model from the first is now a good guy, and the villain can morph into different shapes and people, not forgetting he can form blades from his hands/arms. And like I said before (before this thread basically went to hell), I think there's more to the sequel's story . . . not just keep Sarah safe from the Terminator. There's keeping John safe, getting Sarah out of the pen, prev... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: rocknblues81 at August 30, 2008, 8:19 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis I never started anything, if you actually go back it was simen who jumped in on here, cause I'd got bored of talikng about how i'm not impressed with Rob Zombie. I love terminator I think its amazing, I'm a big fan of pre true lies Arnie. One of the things about Terminator that works so well that is pretty much all at night and its a cat and mouse chase, it is amazingly atmospheric, the soundtrack is cool, the acting is good, its its simplicity that i like. T2 is too sunny and too damn busy with people. But you're a huge fan of that silly Army of Darkness? Don't see how you could like that movie and hate a movie like T2. Not trying to bash you, but it doesn't make sense to me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rocknblues81 at August 30, 2008, 8:07 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Why would you use somebody ELSES logic to dismiss my post? My post has NOTHING to do with someone elses logic...!? I was questioning the fact that you love T2, True Lies and Titanic, and consider them great flicks. I think you loco. I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. Well, I think T2 is one of the best action movies of all time and is in my top 10 favorite. But it's not a top 10 greatest of all time. True Lies is one of the better action movies of the 90's that works better as a comedy for me. I love the movie. Titanic? A chick that doesn't like Titanic? That's a big thumbs up from me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: FireCaptain4 at August 27, 2008, 11:01 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen But whatever, back onto the topic, does anyone ever feel the need to listen to Guns n' Roses after watching the movie? Every time the scene with him fixing his bike in the garage and "You Could Be Mine" is playing, I always have a strong desire to blast that record loud. Ah-hah!!! I suffer from the same infectious disease, it's a great song and "Use Your Illusion 2" is a great album. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Reigh Kaufman at August 27, 2008, 9:25 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen I'm just doing my part to keep the balance. We used to have a poster here called Beeblebrox. Look him up - our arguments, not debates, were epic. I never, and I mean EVER, made a comment without thinking about how he would try to contradict me. We made these boards a warzone. And then I realised: Everyone was on my side against Beeblebrox. Everyone. Even if I was wrong. He was just unlikeable. You are a smart poster - intelligent, articulate, witty... But you run the risk of alienating an entire community with your refusal to concede that your point of view is, while valid, a minority opinion. (In the Rob Zombie thread, at least) Stand up for what you believe in - I do. But recognise that if one person says you are being obtuse, they are not worth your time; if the majority do, then you need to think: Is it worth keeping this up? Your opinion can never be wrong, but it can be disregarded. Accept it. Happens to us all. Roy L Dennis made a comment in another thread that ha... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 27, 2008, 8:48 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaStrangelove The problem here is that you can't take it either. If you could, you wouldn't be using as some way to cripple the other poster. I'm just doing my part to keep the balance. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at August 27, 2008, 8:43 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen You are correct in what it means. However, it's his criteria. If he can't take it, he should never have dished it out. The problem here is that you can't take it either. If you could, you wouldn't be using as some way to cripple the other poster. Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 The second one does play more like a sci-fi action movie than the first; the first is more like a horror chase film, in my opinion. I do confess to enjoying the (groundbreaking) special effects in the 2nd one over the first . . . which became dated the minute the sequel came out. And not only is the tone different in the second than the first, but so are the characters. Sarah Connor went from a scared woman, to a freakin' commando who stabs her psychologist in the knee, doesn't flinch when some creep licks her face, and finds it okay to assassinate a guy hoping it changes the future. The Terminator model from the first is now a good guy, and the villain can morph into different shapes and pe... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 27, 2008, 5:21 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis you don't know what your talking about please return to topic Neither do you, because apparently you don't like cinema according to your own logic. But whatever, back onto the topic, does anyone ever feel the need to listen to Guns n' Roses after watching the movie? Every time the scene with him fixing his bike in the garage and "You Could Be Mine" is playing, I always have a strong desire to blast that record loud. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roy L Dennis at August 27, 2008, 3:43 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen I gave the context quite clearly, and there is nothing to misinterpret about it. You stated you must like cinema in order to enjoy good films, in the context of replying to someone not liking a film you liked. You were essentially implying said person does NOT like cinema if they don't like the films you want. If there was something "out of context" about that, please enlighten me. You are correct in that. However, I'm a strong believer of anything you dish out, you must be able to take yourself. When I see people dishing out things, such as Roy did in that quote, I can't help but feel the need to dish it out at him as well so he feels what it's like to feel the exact same way. Tit-for-tat it may be, but the fact that it is tit-for-tat doesn't bother me. You are correct in what it means. However, it's his criteria. If he can't take it, he should never have dished it out. I thank you for your support and your compliments, but I'd rather fight the good fight than... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bigred760 at August 27, 2008, 8:47 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaStrangelove I saw T2 for the first time in at least 15 years last weekend. We were staying out of town and I stopped in a blockbuster and found it in a bin for $5.99 We went back to the hotel and watched it. I like the movie, but not nearly as much as I did when I was 14. First off, I didn't remember the movie being so silly compared to the first. No, it's not exactly Dude Where's My Car? but not exactly the first movie either. The tone is drastically different and that was probably a product of the times - first one made during the cold war, the second as it was coming to a close. This may be why the second movie lacks the paranoia of the first. I didn't realize I'd gotten an extended version, but had seen the movie enough to quickly recognize the scenes. The love scene in the asylum was useless, but removing the chip was really great. Teaching the terminator to smile was horrible, but did serve some purpose when we later see the Terminator pop a smile. This is a fun action ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 27, 2008, 6:16 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis Quoting people out of context is lame. I gave the context quite clearly, and there is nothing to misinterpret about it. You stated you must like cinema in order to enjoy good films, in the context of replying to someone not liking a film you liked. You were essentially implying said person does NOT like cinema if they don't like the films you want. If there was something "out of context" about that, please enlighten me. Quote: That doesn't mean seek revenge, or tit-for-tat. You are correct in that. However, I'm a strong believer of anything you dish out, you must be able to take yourself. When I see people dishing out things, such as Roy did in that quote, I can't help but feel the need to dish it out at him as well so he feels what it's like to feel the exact same way. Tit-for-tat it may be, but the fact that it is tit-for-tat doesn't bother me. Quote: It means you treat people the way YOU WANT to be treated. If you don't like Roy criteria for basing how ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Rapture27 at August 27, 2008, 4:59 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis I never started anything, if you actually go back it was simen who jumped in on here, cause I'd got bored of talikng about how i'm not impressed with Rob Zombie. I love terminator I think its amazing, I'm a big fan of pre true lies Arnie. One of the things about Terminator that works so well that is pretty much all at night and its a cat and mouse chase, it is amazingly atmospheric, the soundtrack is cool, the acting is good, its its simplicity that i like. T2 is too sunny and too damn busy with people. U got me twisted, cuz I didn't have issues with your stance on Terminator. I prefer part 1 over part 2 as well for some of those same reasons...I had issues with your Aliens opinion so that's what I originally addressed u on. And LS and you have your own issues I really don't care anymore. Have a good day sir, im done with this thread...(for now). Sorry about the castration joke, I thought it was kinda funny. He he... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roy L Dennis at August 27, 2008, 4:46 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Rapture27 Wtf u talking about? I could care less who u bad mouth, I only had issues with that roy douche bag and some other simple jacks who tried to co sign him. I never started anything, if you actually go back it was simen who jumped in on here, cause I'd got bored of talikng about how i'm not impressed with Rob Zombie. I love terminator I think its amazing, I'm a big fan of pre true lies Arnie. One of the things about Terminator that works so well that is pretty much all at night and its a cat and mouse chase, it is amazingly atmospheric, the soundtrack is cool, the acting is good, its its simplicity that i like. T2 is too sunny and too damn busy with people. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at August 27, 2008, 4:45 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen Do onto others, and all that jazz. That doesn't mean seek revenge, or tit-for-tat. It means you treat people the way YOU WANT to be treated. If you don't like Roy criteria for basing how much you like movies, don't use that same criteria as your basis. LordSimen, you're a good guy and I really admire your devotion to film, namely the amount of films you see. There's no reason for you to fight a campaign every time you think someone is belittling your views on film. Stand by who you are, not what you want to be in reflection of others. BubbaStrangelove supports your insanity! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: La Motta at August 27, 2008, 4:26 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | i knew these worlds would eventually collide, it was predicted.... i do likes these art house v popcorn movie word play battles, makes for good reading in the morn yessum *me slide back into the shadows now* "no master, nooooooooooooooooo!" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Rapture27 at August 27, 2008, 4:24 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Yeah, you're all the Knights In Shining Armour the moment I start badmouthing LS...yet rudeness infested the thread a long before I made that ridiculous statement. Completely fucking predictable. Wtf u talking about? I could care less who u bad mouth, I only had issues with that roy douche bag and some other simple jacks who tried to co sign him. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 27, 2008, 2:36 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion The statement Roy made in another thread entirely had nothing to do with you, but you were super quick to copy/paste it and use it against him HERE because he went against the grain. Now that's hypocrisy. But his statement was an implication that another poster on a site dedicated to cinema did not like cinema for the sole reason that the other person did not enjoy a film as much as Roy did. If he chooses to treat others that way, then he too shall be treated just the same. If it's wrong for me to do it, then it should be wrong for him to do it. Now you're being hypocritical in approving of his actions and disproving of mine. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BadCoverVersion at August 27, 2008, 2:33 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen I had nothing to do with anything involved with Reigh's discussion about not liking the film, my statements were only made to Roy specifically. The reason for this is because if Roy chooses to obnoxiously dismiss everyone else's love for cinema simply because they don't love a film he does not like, then I too will treat him the very same way he treats others. Do onto others, and all that jazz. My statements had nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with Reigh. In fact, I don't think there's anything WRONG with not liking Titanic, T2, True Lies, or the like. I am a firm believer of personal opinions and taste. However, I am not believer of people going to a site dedicated to CINEMA. Going into a thread discussing CINEMA. And proclaiming that a person DOESN'T LIKE CINEMA for the sole reason that they don't like a film that that person likes. What this has to do with you, or Reigh, I have no idea. Because I never stated anything about you two. The statement Roy made in ano... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 27, 2008, 2:26 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Reigh said they didn't like T2 and gave good reasoning and people tried to slaughter them like the proverbial lambs. Terrible taste...they've had their balls cut off... I had nothing to do with anything involved with Reigh's discussion about not liking the film, my statements were only made to Roy specifically. The reason for this is because if Roy chooses to obnoxiously dismiss everyone else's love for cinema simply because they don't love a film he does not like, then I too will treat him the very same way he treats others. Do onto others, and all that jazz. My statements had nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with Reigh. In fact, I don't think there's anything WRONG with not liking Titanic, T2, True Lies, or the like. I am a firm believer of personal opinions and taste. However, I am not believer of people going to a site dedicated to CINEMA. Going into a thread discussing CINEMA. And proclaiming that a person DOESN'T LIKE CINEMA for the sole reason that they... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BubbaStrangelove at August 27, 2008, 2:09 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | I saw T2 for the first time in at least 15 years last weekend. We were staying out of town and I stopped in a blockbuster and found it in a bin for $5.99 We went back to the hotel and watched it. I like the movie, but not nearly as much as I did when I was 14. First off, I didn't remember the movie being so silly compared to the first. No, it's not exactly Dude Where's My Car? but not exactly the first movie either. The tone is drastically different and that was probably a product of the times - first one made during the cold war, the second as it was coming to a close. This may be why the second movie lacks the paranoia of the first. I didn't realize I'd gotten an extended version, but had seen the movie enough to quickly recognize the scenes. The love scene in the asylum was useless, but removing the chip was really great. Teaching the terminator to smile was horrible, but did serve some purpose when we later see the Terminator pop a smile. This is a fun action flick, but really hard to compare with the fi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BadCoverVersion at August 27, 2008, 1:37 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Rapture27 Well....... To say Aliens is just "ok' is as dumb as I suspect u most likely look like. And to say its crap compared to Alien tells me you've most likely been castrated since 1985. Your opinions are wack and don't deserve furthur attention. Have a good day. Nice. Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen That quote was yours. Sorry. If you liked cinema, you'd like good films. Judging from your reaction to these films, you must not like cinema. If that wasn't the way your quote was intended, you should never have used it in the first place against someone. ^That was LS plucking a quote from another thread just to try and make his point.^ Quote: Originally Posted by Rapture27 LOL Don't waste your time, dude is a joke. Quote: Originally Posted by MisterTwister Is Roy Dennis saying stupid shit again? Just put him on ignore and let the good times roll. Yeah, you're all the Knights In Shining Armour the moment I start badmouthing LS...yet rudeness infested the thread a long ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BadCoverVersion at August 27, 2008, 1:30 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. Quote: Originally Posted by Le_Big_Mac I'm all for disagreeing with LordSimen, but even with all the snobbishness already infesting this thread, that was pretty harsh for a moderator. Quote: Originally Posted by MisterTwister Dude, what the fuck. That was very uncool. And look who is talking. Take a look at your avatar. You have no right to say someone has terrible taste with that shit. Hey, I'm just judging my somebody elses standards...but I guess nobody gets that. Simple fact is Roy and Reigh said they didn't like T2 and gave good reasoning and people tried to slaughter them like the proverbial lambs. Terrible taste...they've had their balls cut off...they know nothing about cinema. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Double. Fucking. Standards. I personally don't give a crap about what LordSimen likes or does not like but it seems people only notice fellow posters being ob... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: MisterTwister at August 27, 2008, 12:38 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Was my favorite film until I saw Battle Royale. But it is in my top 5. Is Roy Dennis saying stupid shit again? Just put him on ignore and let the good times roll. Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Why would you use somebody ELSES logic to dismiss my post? My post has NOTHING to do with someone elses logic...!? I was questioning the fact that you love T2, True Lies and Titanic, and consider them great flicks. I think you loco. I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. Dude, what the fuck. That was very uncool. And look who is talking. Take a look at your avatar. You have no right to say someone has terrible taste with that shit. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Kilar at August 27, 2008, 12:22 am | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by syxxpac You... You've seen Salvation? Yes... A golden light shone down on me from the heavens and on a silver cloud a figure loomed, too bright at first to make out, but it came closer as if floating on the wings of angels, I could feel the presence of greatness, our Salvation... It was then that I saw... McG And he said: "Dude, what's up. Get me a Pepsi can ya..." I got him his damn Pepsi but by God I wanted to spit it in his face. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 26, 2008, 9:30 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Why would you use somebody ELSES logic to dismiss my post? My post has NOTHING to do with someone elses logic...!? I was questioning the fact that you love T2, True Lies and Titanic, and consider them great flicks. I think you loco. I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. I'm not dismissing your point for anything. I'm not even sure why you're the one flipping out right now. I'm pointing out to Mr. Roy L Dennis that if he's going to post snobbish backhands at other posters, other posters are going to do the same to him. What does that have to do with you, at all? None of the logic I'm posting IS my logic. I don't even believe it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at August 26, 2008, 7:02 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by BadCoverVersion Why would you use somebody ELSES logic to dismiss my post? My post has NOTHING to do with someone elses logic...!? I was questioning the fact that you love T2, True Lies and Titanic, and consider them great flicks. I think you loco. I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. I'm all for disagreeing with LordSimen, but even with all the snobbishness already infesting this thread, that was pretty harsh for a moderator. Quote: Originally Posted by Rapture27 LOL Getting banned is the least of my worries...trust me. I don't care about being nice and respectful...some people need to be called on their bullshit. Simple and plain...and my comments weren't very harsh compared to all the racist crap I see here on a daily. Nobody told us that Kanye West joined the board. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BadCoverVersion at August 26, 2008, 6:53 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen Sure it does. You stated to someone that they must not like cinema because they don't like a movie YOU like. If that's your logic, then YOU must also not like cinema because YOU don't like films OTHERS like. Get the picture? If you find that childish, well, as stated before, THAT WAS YOUR LOGIC. Why would you use somebody ELSES logic to dismiss my post? My post has NOTHING to do with someone elses logic...!? I was questioning the fact that you love T2, True Lies and Titanic, and consider them great flicks. I think you loco. I also think you have terrible taste in movies and music, and you undermine people for no good reason. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at August 26, 2008, 6:25 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Roy L Dennis once again you have missed the point the quote has no bearing on anything! Sure it does. You stated to someone that they must not like cinema because they don't like a movie YOU like. If that's your logic, then YOU must also not like cinema because YOU don't like films OTHERS like. Get the picture? If you find that childish, well, as stated before, THAT WAS YOUR LOGIC. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Rapture27 at August 26, 2008, 6:11 pm | | Topic: Who's best ever film is Terminator 2: Judgement day? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by LordSimen It's funny that you find that logic and quote childish. Because IT'S FUCKING YOURS. You're essentially calling yourself childish and misinformed. Try again, buddy. LOL Don't waste your time, dude is a joke. | | Static Link |
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