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Posted by: Spidey at August 5, 2008, 11:46 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by CyclicNightmare Minor, maybe not even a SPOILER Did anyone notice the robot thing walking on the street when the tornados are coming down? Whassup with that? Yeah I saw it too, it looked like one of those cylons from Battlestar Gallactica.
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Posted by: daddiefatsacks at August 5, 2008, 4:18 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by Bourne101 That was probably the most unfunny thing I have ever read. It wasn't clever in the slightest. i wouldnt go that far, but it was pretty fucking lame...i want my 5 minutes back
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Posted by: Bourne101 at July 27, 2008, 1:28 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by CyclicNightmare http://www.cracked.com/article_16517...re-honest.html Spot on. That was probably the most unfunny thing I have ever read. It wasn't clever in the slightest.
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Posted by: CyclicNightmare at July 27, 2008, 12:54 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
http://www.cracked.com/article_16517...re-honest.html Spot on.
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Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at July 18, 2008, 8:55 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I agree with everything you wrote , and i don't understand why people didn't appreciate the change in tone , it never felt forced , but natural because of the revelations that are revealed about himself and his past . I def want a sequel to this , there is much more to this character that was only touched on in this film .
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Posted by: Badbird at July 18, 2008, 12:21 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I really enjoyed this. It got a lot darker and a lot more serious than I expected it to. As for the "twist?" Well, that was pretty easy to spot in the trailer. I would have liked it to have been a half hour longer, but I think a lot of what was cut out was probably in the beginning with him being an asshole, so it's possible it was just redundant. I had no problem with the clashing story lines, or like many have said: "It felt like two movies." That just didn't bother me. Lots of movies do that. I was expecting a comedy but got something a lot more rewarding. I found the end sequence at the hospital actually quite touching and powerful. Let's say 8/10.
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Posted by: LordSimen at July 16, 2008, 12:26 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I thought it was a very funny and entertaining movie. My one complaint with it was it felt like it was two movies in one, you had Hancock, a movie about Hancock overcoming his own personality and becoming a respectful and helpful superhero. Then you had Hancock 2, where Hancock discovers the truth about his origins and confronts the past he never knew he had. All of which was sped through at a rush of a pace in order to fit both stories in one movie. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. 7/10
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Posted by: AcE7447 at July 12, 2008, 1:44 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I thought this movie was entertaining, which is all I expected it to be. Pretty funny at times (guys head up another guys ass) and then some pretty sick action at other times (fight with tornadoes in the background) All in all I'd give the movie a 7.5/10.
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Posted by: a7xfan at July 12, 2008, 10:40 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
my opinion of this is generally the same as my opinion of 'i am legend' 1st half great, 2nd half quite shitty. some funny moments and decent action gives this about 7/10 for me Quote: Minor, maybe not even a SPOILER i was also like 'WTF???' WIERD.
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Posted by: Nazgul at July 11, 2008, 5:17 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Wherever Will Smith goes, I go too. And this was a great popcorn flick. B+ for me
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Posted by: paul calf at July 11, 2008, 4:53 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
i am one of will smiths biggest haters his films generally do nothing for me,but i really enjoyed this movie. it had great action,laughs and some great acting jason bateman was superb in every scene he was in and will smith was very likeable in this role. it was a very easy film to just kick back and enjoy. 7/10
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Posted by: Crazy Dud at July 8, 2008, 7:15 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by Bourne101 Hancock - 7/10 (some spoilers) Just pure fucking entertainment. This is what summer movies are all about. The movie starts out very, very funny with many great jokes (the McDonald's one was brilliant) and lots of superb action. This is really the highlight of the movie and I wish there was a little more of this in the last quarter of the movie. Then Hancock runs into a man who really wants to help him. Hancock spends some time in jail, and then comes out and acts a little more humane than he had previously. This part still very, very good. Then it is revealed that the wife of the man who helped Hancock has very similar powers to Hancock. This is when the movie gets a little iffy. It starts out very well with some very funny moments including a kitchen scene which had myself and the audience nearly in tears. The moments of emotion, depression etc. are all very good to this point, but then it gets a little bit out of hand. Entertaining, but a little too far for my liking....
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Posted by: soda at July 8, 2008, 5:35 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore Soda , i'm not referring to the comics , i'm commenting on actual adaptations or in the case of Hancock , a superhero that didn't originate in the comics . Sin City isn't even part of this conversation , because it wasn't superhero based , it was just inspired by the comic . Yes , that film was dark and gritty , and violent , but it didn't have any superheros running around , although it did feature some fantastical characters . I'm talking about a real life dark , mysterious , psychotic comic book hero , we haven't seen one yet . Tdk doesn't seem to go far enough , because much like BB , Bale plays him like an angst ridden teenager , not a conflicted , totally pissed off , cynical , borderline psychotic . He's congenial , seemingly well adjusted , yeah he has some issues , but nothing a talk with Oprah ( Alfred ) can't solve . I gotta get me one of those Butlers , they seem to be the cure for any type of neuroses . Just making a point , because i loved BB and...
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Posted by: Bourne101 at July 8, 2008, 2:37 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by CyclicNightmare Minor, maybe not even a SPOILER Did anyone notice the robot thing walking on the street when the tornados are coming down? Whassup with that? Haha. Yeah, I did. I completely forgot about it, but now that you bring it up I definitely remember it. That was a big WTF moment.
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Posted by: CyclicNightmare at July 8, 2008, 2:23 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Minor, maybe not even a SPOILER
Did anyone notice the robot thing walking on the street when the tornados are coming down? Whassup with that?
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Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at July 8, 2008, 1:59 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I'm positive that whatever questions were left unanswered in Hancock will be explained in the sequel in more detail . Spoilers I'm satisfied with some of the explanations i've read so far in here concerning the reason they lose power when immortals are in close proximity for too long . The adam and eve angle makes sense . It's like when a guy falls in love , he loses his power and independence , as he begins to bond with his chosen mate , in most cases taking on the persona of the one he loves . There were shades of Supe 2 in there somewhere , Superman had to make a sacrifice in order to be with the woman he loved , and he had to renounce his powers and become a mortal in order to share a life with one . In Hancock , you made the choice to stay with your " twin " and die a mortal , or remain alone and live forever . That was the choice the immortals had to make , it seemed most of them couldn't bear a life of emotional solitude in exchange for immortality , so they bonded with their twin and eventu...
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Posted by: smok3h at July 8, 2008, 9:35 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by Bourne101 Hancock - 7/10 (some spoilers) Just pure fucking entertainment. This is what summer movies are all about. The movie starts out very, very funny with many great jokes (the McDonald's one was brilliant) and lots of superb action. This is really the highlight of the movie and I wish there was a little more of this in the last quarter of the movie. Then Hancock runs into a man who really wants to help him. Hancock spends some time in jail, and then comes out and acts a little more humane than he had previously. This part still very, very good. Then it is revealed that the wife of the man who helped Hancock has very similar powers to Hancock. This is when the movie gets a little iffy. It starts out very well with some very funny moments including a kitchen scene which had myself and the audience nearly in tears. The moments of emotion, depression etc. are all very good to this point, but then it gets a little bit out of hand. Entertaining, but a little too far for my liking. ...
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Posted by: Sgizzy316 at July 7, 2008, 11:16 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
not at all what i was expecting, yet still entertaining
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Posted by: Bourne101 at July 7, 2008, 9:11 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Hancock - 7/10 (some spoilers) Just pure fucking entertainment. This is what summer movies are all about. The movie starts out very, very funny with many great jokes (the McDonald's one was brilliant) and lots of superb action. This is really the highlight of the movie and I wish there was a little more of this in the last quarter of the movie. Then Hancock runs into a man who really wants to help him. Hancock spends some time in jail, and then comes out and acts a little more humane than he had previously. This part still very, very good. Then it is revealed that the wife of the man who helped Hancock has very similar powers to Hancock. This is when the movie gets a little iffy. It starts out very well with some very funny moments including a kitchen scene which had myself and the audience nearly in tears. The moments of emotion, depression etc. are all very good to this point, but then it gets a little bit out of hand. Entertaining, but a little too far for my liking. The connections between Hancock and th...
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Posted by: Jig Saw 123 at July 7, 2008, 2:18 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
My Review: Hancock is another Will Smith popcorn flick, that has a very dull and not so unique storyline. Will Smith plays the John Hancock, a hero who doesn't know what his real purpose is and has a serious identity crisis. The cast is nothing to scream about, Charlize Theron gives a mediocre role as the super-goddess of the film. Jason Bateman is a very boring and most of the time an idiotic character with no since of personality or shape. The action is somewhat entertaining, and Will Smith plays the funny man, which is something we haven't seen since Men in Black II. The twist is not at all surprising, any person who is above the age of 10 should be able to figure it out. And like most of Will Smiths movies, the ending is predictable and leaves a moral for the moviegoers life. Expect a sequel since this film is doing so well at the box-office. I guess Will Smith will play any role just to be in a blockbuster every year... 6/10
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Posted by: bigred760 at July 7, 2008, 2:05 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey I hated how they brushed over parts of their past so quickly, so you wont get much info, just glimpses into their past, vague lines that dont say much. I hate that thing! Some might think its signs of a weak script, but I see it for what it really is. For what they were really trying to do. Movies are doing that now so much, most recently I noticed this in Jumper, where they did the same thing, they dont give you much of the information so theyll give it to you in some future sequel that they dont even know will get made. Very true . . . moreso in Jumper though. I was surprised that Hancock was only 90 minutes, and they probably could've use taken a few minutes to explain a bit more what was going on. Instead, they went with the short movie route and threw in an extra screening a day.
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Posted by: spacemonkey at July 7, 2008, 1:53 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 They didn't have to fight each other once they met. That's not how they died off. These two just happened to fight each other because he pissed her off. I hated how they brushed over parts of their past so quickly, so you wont get much info, just glimpses into their past, vague lines that dont say much. I hate that thing! Some might think its signs of a weak script, but I see it for what it really is. For what they were really trying to do. Movies are doing that now so much, most recently I noticed this in Jumper, where they did the same thing, they dont give you much of the information so theyll give it to you in some future sequel that they dont even know will get made.
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Posted by: spacemonkey at July 7, 2008, 1:44 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore I'm commenting on actual adaptations or in the case of Hancock , a superhero that didn't originate in the comics . I'm talking about a real life dark , mysterious , psychotic comic book hero , we haven't seen one yet . Tdk doesn't seem to go far enough , because much like BB , Bale plays him like an angst ridden teenager , not a conflicted , totally pissed off , cynical , borderline psychotic . He's congenial , seemingly well adjusted , yeah he has some issues , but nothing a talk with Oprah ( Alfred ) can't solve . I gotta get me one of those Butlers , they seem to be the cure for any type of neuroses . Just making a point , because i loved BB and i will no doubt go bonkers over Tdk . My point is , we will never see the true dark side of comic book heroes in a mainstream H wood offering , it would be too dark and depressing , although for me , way more realistic and intriguing than what we are getting . None of these types of films delve deep enough into the ...
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Posted by: bigred760 at July 7, 2008, 1:27 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
**MORE SPOILERS** [quote=spacemonkey;2798692]****************SPOILERS************************** ******************** Quote: Yeah, but she says they "were created in two", who created them again? Didnt she say some people called them angels, some gods and now superheroes, shes making some sort of allusion to their divine origins? As to who created them, I don't know - I don't remember if she said so. As far as what they are, apparently they've been called different things at different times. I kinda liked this aspect of the movie: in "olden times," they were considered Gods; at another point angels; in this era, Hancock became known as a super hero. Quote: And whats that dumb idea about them having to be seperated in order to do good? Whats that all about? I mean if its to be taken in a symbolic way thats fine, cause ok, men and women have to learn to let their guards down to be together, and they have to make themselves vulnerable in order to do that, I get that. But in the movie, whats...
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Posted by: spacemonkey at July 7, 2008, 1:19 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
****************SPOILERS************************** ******************** Yeah, but she says they "were created in two", who created them again? Didnt she say some people called them angels, some gods and now superheroes, shes making some sort of allusion to their divine origins? And whats that dumb idea about them having to be seperated in order to do good? Whats that all about? I mean if its to be taken in a symbolic way thats fine, cause ok, men and women have to learn to let their guards down to be together, and they have to make themselves vulnerable in order to do that, I get that. But in the movie, whats the practicality of them having to be apart? Why do they loose their powers when together? Whats the point of it? Whats the meaning for it? Also, I got some Highlander vibes going on here. Inmortals who are drawn together and once together they have to fight each other? "There can be only one" type of deal going on here. It seems like Will just decided to mix the current superhero cr...
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Posted by: bigred760 at July 7, 2008, 1:12 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
**MORE SPOILERS** Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey ***SPOILERS AHEAD************************ Did anyone think that when Charlize Theron is talking to Hancock. . . Not really, no. She wasn't saying that they were created by Gods, she was saying they were Gods, and she was explaining to him who and what they were. I thought it was kind of a touching moment.
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Posted by: spacemonkey at July 7, 2008, 1:05 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
***SPOILERS AHEAD************************ Did anyone think that when Charlize Theron is talking to Hancock in the hospital, the way she was spewing her lines was kind of robotic? I kept hearing her deliver the dialog about "the gods" (who the fuck are these gods that created them anyway? Greek gods or something?) and about them having to be apart and what not, the dialog didnt come off as believable in the least. It was just as if she was saying this lines, but she wasnt believing them. It felt to me like what was going through her mind was something along the lines of "this dialog is ridiculous! Do I really have to say this?" Honestly, that scene looked like it was part of those reshoots they did in at the last minute. She was the worst thing in the movie for me!
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Posted by: bigred760 at July 7, 2008, 9:27 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by xage I dont know if it was mentioned in this thread.. but anyone noticed? A black superhero's greatest weakness (a kryptonite) is a white woman? What's your point?
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Posted by: xage at July 7, 2008, 8:54 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I dont know if it was mentioned in this thread.. but anyone noticed? A black superhero's greatest weakness (a kryptonite) is a white woman?
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Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at July 7, 2008, 7:19 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Soda , i'm not referring to the comics , i'm commenting on actual adaptations or in the case of Hancock , a superhero that didn't originate in the comics . Sin City isn't even part of this conversation , because it wasn't superhero based , it was just inspired by the comic . Yes , that film was dark and gritty , and violent , but it didn't have any superheros running around , although it did feature some fantastical characters . I'm talking about a real life dark , mysterious , psychotic comic book hero , we haven't seen one yet . Tdk doesn't seem to go far enough , because much like BB , Bale plays him like an angst ridden teenager , not a conflicted , totally pissed off , cynical , borderline psychotic . He's congenial , seemingly well adjusted , yeah he has some issues , but nothing a talk with Oprah ( Alfred ) can't solve . I gotta get me one of those Butlers , they seem to be the cure for any type of neuroses . Just making a point , because i loved BB and i will no doubt go bonkers over Tdk . My point i...
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Posted by: Crazy Dud at July 7, 2008, 1:52 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
This is a tough movie to review. The first two-thirds of the movie are great, but it veers off in a rather strange and unwelcome direction in the final act. However, though I first hated this "twist," after thinking about it a while I realize that it fits the film better than I initially thought and gives it more thematic depth than it would otherwise have had. Most importantly, Will Smith turns in another fine performance. Just as he did in I Am Legend, Smith's stellar performance elevates what would otherwise be a rather standard film. As of right now, he is the only actor in Hollywood who is almost guaranteed to open a movie big, and for good reason. He is a good actor, and has an incredible amount of charm and character on screen. In Hancock he has perhaps created his most memorable character yet. Before seeing it, be forewarned that there is a left-field twist in the final act that definitely could have been better, but that you are ultimately watching this movie to have Will Smith entertain y...
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Posted by: soda at July 6, 2008, 9:39 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by dellamorte dellamore None of those films have gone into these darker areas that Hancock seems to do . This is an unrepentant alcoholic , womanizing , kid hating drunkard , this is something new . Personally i don't think these types of films are dark enough because they are straddling the line between appealing to the younger people in the audience and the adults . I want to see some real neuroses on display , i don't want it just hinted at . No, for a comic book fan like myself, this is decidedly NOT something new. And, in fact, this is something DANGEROUS, that ought to be avoided. A quick history lesson.... Silver Age comics (1960-1985) was very happy go lucky, as I've said in other posts, then, in 1985, a slew of titles came out that shifted the industry, this slew was headed by Alan Moore's Watchmen and Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Over the course of the next 10 to 15 years, almost everything that came out was grim and gritty, what you're talking about in your post...
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Posted by: Rapture27 at July 6, 2008, 5:56 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by Shockwave This movie keeps reminding me of I AM LEGEND, because its first half is pretty good, but its second half just apart and feels like it sufferd from massive reshoots and studio fudging. Truth.org
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Posted by: snoopmish at July 6, 2008, 2:59 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by Shale Spoilers Y'know, I missed all that. I was just seeing the slapstick, near potty humor of, "stick his head up ur ass." However, for those who saw more meaning in that scene than was there, maybe it was a red herring to throw u off the other twist, as there was talk going around about an equal rival. That may be why so many were disappointed that there wasn't a real "villain" (with superpowers) in this movie. Maybe they were looking for one and read it in that prison scene. I kind of agree with that. I also think this was just intro to the character. I could see them finding out there is another....someone whose partner died and has been all alone and wants to take on Hancock because of his good press or something.....obvious sequel yes...but if the other character was written properly could be fun.
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Posted by: bigred760 at July 6, 2008, 9:26 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
It was a fun movie and better than I expected. The story was interesting, and the twist halfway through the movie caught me off guard. It also had it's funny moments with Will Smith playing the bum superhero really well. Jason Bateman and Charlize Theron ("Arrested Development" reunion!) also played their parts well. I won't give away too much about the story, but part of the 'explanation' of how things work kinda confused me . . . maybe some repeat viewings will clear them up for me. All in all, a good fun summer movie, which Will Smith seems to excel at lately. 7/10
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Posted by: dellamorte dellamore at July 6, 2008, 9:16 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I agree , it was a great film , yet another " superhero " film this summer that delivered on it's promise and i like how this one is entirely original . Maybe the critics were expecting another IM , or they feel the bar has been raised because of that film , but the funny thing is IM had almost the same type of narrative shift concerning the character , they both developed a conscience , so why is it that some people feel that's the point in the film when things went downhill . I got better after he started to realize maybe he was destined for greater things and he had a more noble purpose .
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Posted by: Rukas at July 6, 2008, 4:39 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I really liked this. I cant see why traditional media is saying it sucked so much, I mean, what "sucked?" I can see how some people may not like this type of film, and it has its flaws, but I think to say it flat out sucked is a bit harsh. The twist was fantastic and I didnt see it coming, I didnt even expect there to be one of that extent, I thought it was going to go where it seemed to be going and then BANG, literally.
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Posted by: anakinsrise at July 6, 2008, 3:58 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I have had mixed feelings about Hancock since i saw the trailer months ago,and then about 20 more times with each film i went to see. So i was pleased to find myself so amused by the first half of Hancock. Smith does an excellent job as the "anti-hero Hancock. Jason Bateman also did well as his P.R rep As for the second half when the "big twist" is revealed which i didnt have a problem with,and it actually leads to some very amusing scenes. But so much is just touched upon after the revelation that could have made the movie more interesting, and packed more of a emotional punch,its frustrating because you see how Hancock could have been great instead of good.I wanted to know more about Hancocks past.So much was passed over. Plus i found the villain to be lame.I will get to that in a spoiler below In the end i was entertained and i laughed out loud quite a few times but Hancock could have been so much more Scale of 1-10 a 7 SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER It would have been so much bet...
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Posted by: Shockwave at July 6, 2008, 3:13 am
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
This movie keeps reminding me of I AM LEGEND, because its first half is pretty good, but its second half just apart and feels like it sufferd from massive reshoots and studio fudging.
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Posted by: thedudeman69 at July 5, 2008, 9:28 pm
Topic: Hancock Forum: JoBlo
I feel like that Berg felt helpless in his direction because this was his first movie using CGI, and he said that he had limited control on it. Also, this script has gone through numerous rewrites and The end product of this was dissapponting. If the film was more like the first half, and they just took it from there, then this would've been better, but they just lost the audience with the last few parts. But for there are cons there are pros, as the action sequences were really good, and Smith gave a good peformance. The directio was decent, not Berg's best, but it's passable but disspponting. 7/10
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