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Posted by: spacemonkey at June 19, 2008, 2:08 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Yeah, there "top ten" fantasy films is PURE bullshit! Not one Terry Gilliam film? The master of modern fantasy ignored by these ignorant idiots! Yeeeeeesssshhh! I mean, Id expect at least Baron Munchausen to be somewhere in there....and where the hell is Legend? or Labyrinth? or The Never Ending Story? Fuck these guys, they dont know what a fantasy film is. Boo on this!
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Posted by: poopontheshoes7 at June 19, 2008, 11:23 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by countchocula FUCK this shit. "Epic," "Sports," and "Courtroom Drama" are not genres. It fucking figures that they wouldn't include horror films. I mean, how the fuck is horror not a popular genre? Fuck the AFI, fuck the number 10, and fuck lists. Agreed good sir. Courtroom drama is not a fucking genre. Its more of a sub-genre. I wouldnt call Epic a genre either. I too was pissed as hell to find out horror and action wasnt on the list. Probably to "low brow" to be on the prestigious AFI list. Fuck off AFI
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Posted by: hasselbrad at June 19, 2008, 9:43 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Sports: ...was disapointed in not seeing Rudy on the list though. This mystifies me. To me, this is the one of the best sports movies, yet it was ranked behind Bend it Like Beckham on ESPN's Top 25 Sports Movies since 1979. Don't get me wrong... I love Bend it Like Beckham but I wouldn't expect it to beat out Rudy. I don't know a guy who played sports who doesn't get at least a little choked up at the end.
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Posted by: Orson-Cockart at June 19, 2008, 9:19 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
The Western category should have Once Upon a Time in the West. And Rio Bravo's better than High Noon. Outlaw Josey Wales was easily Clint's best Western, much better than Unforgiven. Winchester '73 deserved a nod too. They're obviously not a fan of Horror films.
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Posted by: darknite125 at June 19, 2008, 12:24 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Animated: WHERE THE HELL ARE THE IRON GIANT, THE INCREDIBLES, AND NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS ALL OF WHICH WERE INFINITLEY BETTER THAN FINDING OVERRATED NEMO!!!! Beauty and the Beast should have been much higher. Did not like this list. Romantic Comedy: I'm a Chaplin fan so that was good but other than that I'm not too crazy about this genre the only RomCom I own on DVD is High Fidelity. Western: Searchers is my favorite western so that was good. No: Good Bad and the Ugly, Cavalry Trilogy, Tombstone, Big Jake, Tom Mix movies is a definite wtf. Sports: Love Rocky and Raging Bull but overall not a fan of sports movies so meh (was disapointed in not seeing Rudy on the list though) Mystery: All my favorite mystery movies except Rebecca were present. Still thought Maltese Falcon should have been much higher. Fantasy: Loved Wizard of Oz. Can't believe Big and Groundhogs Day made it to the list but not, The Crow, the last two LOTR movies, Princess Bride or Labyrinth. Aside from the top 3 wasn't too crazy bout this l...
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Posted by: sirdizzy at June 18, 2008, 10:02 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by dannywalker17 They seem to put a lot of value on importance. Not just the quality, but how important it is to the world of film. Hence, Wizard of Oz, Snow White, etc. Definitely some weird categories. Should be more like Comedy Horror Mystery Fantasy Western Science Fiction War Animation Crime Drama Problem is they have done Comedy and Drama in the past. This is just an expansion of the some of the lists they have already done. AFI Funny Movies 1. Some Like It Hot (1959) 2. Tootsie (1982) 3. Dr. Strangelove (1964) 4. Annie Hall (1977) 5. Duck Soup (1933) 6. Blazing Saddles (1974) 7. M*A*S*H (1970) 8. It Happened One Night (1934) 9. The Graduate (1967) 10. Airplane! (1980) 11. The Producers (1968) 12. A Night At the Opera (1935) 13. Young Frankenstein (1974) 14. Bringing Up Baby (1938) 15. The Philadelphia Story (1940) 16. Singin' In the Rain (1952) 17. The Odd Couple (1968) 18. The General (1927) 19. His Girl Friday (1940) 20. The Apartment (1960) 21. A Fish Called Wanda (1988) 22...
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Posted by: dannywalker17 at June 18, 2008, 7:38 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
They seem to put a lot of value on importance. Not just the quality, but how important it is to the world of film. Hence, Wizard of Oz, Snow White, etc. Definitely some weird categories. Should be more like Comedy
Horror
Mystery
Fantasy
Western
Science Fiction
War
Animation
Crime
Drama
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Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at June 18, 2008, 7:19 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
These lists make a few compensations for the Top 100, mostly in the sci-fi category. 2001 ahead of Star Wars. Blade Runner (which was barely on the Top 100), Terminator 2 and Alien being included. Red River in the top 10 westerns. And Gone with the Wind not being the #1 or #2 epic of all time. But there are still plenty of things they got wrong. The Searchers is good, but not the greatest American western. National Velvet is not one of the greatest sports movies of all time. McCabe & Mrs. Miller is not that great and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is far from it. I haven't seen Cat Ballou, but I doubt it's better or more influential than My Darling Clementine, The Ox-Bow Incident, The Gunfighter, The Magnificent Seven or Ride the High Country. The Wizard of Oz is not better than It's a Wonderful Life, King Kong and LOTR. The original Scarface isn't quite as good as the remake. Apocalypse Now and The Bridge on the River Kwai aren't included in epics, but Titanic is. But opinions aside, the genres and ...
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Posted by: Badbird at June 18, 2008, 6:55 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Whatever. Another year, another boring, predictable list of pretty much the same movies from the Always Fucking Ignorant AFI. Of the Top Ten Fantasy, I would only classify two movies as actually being fantasy (LOTR and OZ).
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Posted by: countchocula at June 18, 2008, 5:03 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
FUCK this shit. "Epic," "Sports," and "Courtroom Drama" are not genres. It fucking figures that they wouldn't include horror films. I mean, how the fuck is horror not a popular genre? Fuck the AFI, fuck the number 10, and fuck lists.
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Posted by: Cinexcellence at June 18, 2008, 4:56 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Skimmed it last night. Seemed lame if not predictable and unoriginal.
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Posted by: bigred760 at June 18, 2008, 4:46 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by cuckoo2 I thought jfk should have been included in the courtroom dramas list, but for some reason it was not even on the nomination ballot. Were they ever in a courtroom? Been a while since I've seen it. I think it would've fallen in the mystery category, if anything.
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Posted by: cuckoo2 at June 18, 2008, 4:42 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
I thought jfk should have been included in the courtroom dramas list, but for some reason it was not even on the nomination ballot.
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Posted by: Mikey2Dope at June 18, 2008, 2:59 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Some pretty good picks there. For Sports I would have put Slap Shot in there instead of National Velvet. For Courtroom Dramas there had to have been something better than A Few Good Men to put in there. Don't get me wrong as I like the movie, but it's good not great and seems to get pretty overrated. Murder In The First,Primal Fear,The People vs Larry Flynt,Philadelphia or The Insider would have looked better on that list.
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Posted by: outsyder at June 18, 2008, 12:54 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 It's the AMERICAN Film Institute!!! NO WAI
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Posted by: tunedinlive at June 18, 2008, 12:40 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
A Clockwork Orange looks horribly out of place in the Sci-Fi list. Nice to see The Usual Suspects get some recognition though.
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Posted by: a7xfan at June 18, 2008, 12:13 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
liar liar is a better courtroom drama in my eyes
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Posted by: Darth Kenshin at June 18, 2008, 12:10 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
I always hate AFI lists... seem more based on impact than on actual movie quality, at least to me, which results in a strong favortism toward older movies that I don't think are that great (Snow White, for example)
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Posted by: bigred760 at June 18, 2008, 12:10 pm
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
It just seems every year the AFI does this, somebody complains that international films should be included as well. AFI has always done lists with only American films . . . they're not the Oscars. I know nothing about the British Film Institute.
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Posted by: auge_28 at June 18, 2008, 11:57 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 It's the AMERICAN Film Institute!!! Ummm.... The BFI (British Film Institute) includes films from outside of Britain. Of course the AFI can do what they like . . . they are allowed to make up there own rules, and as an American it is nice to have American made film filtered.
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Posted by: bigred760 at June 18, 2008, 11:30 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by MidnightAngel The Magnificent Seven wasn't included. That one too.
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Posted by: MidnightAngel at June 18, 2008, 11:16 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 Western: Unforgiven and The Wild Bunch should've been higher. And I like Cat Ballou as much as the next guy (Lee Marvin kicks ass) . . . but it beat out Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Outlaw Josey Wales and any of John Ford's cavalry trilogy? The Magnificent Seven wasn't included. Glad that The Wild Bunch and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid were included. Once Upon a Time in America wasn't added at the top 10 gangster movies. They should also included a top 10 horror movies. Caddyshack at the top 10 sport movies allright!
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Posted by: ilovemovies at June 18, 2008, 8:59 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
They should have had Aliens instead of Alien in the sci-fi category IMO. It's an infinitely better movie. I also think it's a damn shame they didn't have Contact or Star Trek II in the sci-fi category. Overall it was a very enjoyable show even some of my favorites were snubbed. But I expected that anyway.
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Posted by: bigred760 at June 18, 2008, 8:44 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by outsyder By restricting these lists to American films, there's no way they can be considered complete. The lack of any Sergio Leone in the Western category is a huge omission that cannot be compensated for. It's the AMERICAN Film Institute!!! Animated: No surprise 9 out of 10 of them are Disney movies. Romantic Comedy: I don't own ONE of these on DVD . . . though I've been meaning to get When Harry Met Sally. And what was so funny about Sleepless in Seattle? Western: Unforgiven and The Wild Bunch should've been higher. And I like Cat Ballou as much as the next guy (Lee Marvin kicks ass) . . . but it beat out Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Outlaw Josey Wales and any of John Ford's cavalry trilogy? Sports: Probably the one I agree the most with. Glad Bull Durham made it on there. Mystery: It's really no surprise that Hitchcock is ALL OVER this list. Fantasy: The Wizard of Oz beating out LOTR? I don't think so. And Groundhog Day should be in Romantic Comedy - but glad to see it recogn...
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Posted by: outsyder at June 18, 2008, 8:35 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
By restricting these lists to American films, there's no way they can be considered complete. The lack of any Sergio Leone in the Western category is a huge omission that cannot be compensated for.
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Posted by: Homyrrh at June 18, 2008, 8:12 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
Courtroom Drama?
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Posted by: hasselbrad at June 18, 2008, 7:48 am
Topic: AFI's 10 Top Ten... Forum: JoBlo
... of each genre. Or so they claim. Discuss.
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