| Posted by: moviejunkie at June 15, 2008, 7:37 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) First commercials for commercials. Now commercials for trailers. That is one thing I forgot to say, there are like 15 commercials even before the trailers on this thing. The most i've ever seen. It was downright annoying! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviejunkie at June 15, 2008, 7:35 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | I actually liked this movie, and liked it way more than I thought I would. It seems way closer to some of the history than the Ang Lee version. I really liked the homages to Stan Lee, Bill Bixby, Lou Ferigno and the old tv show...heck I even heard the old tv show theme. Good summer popcorn flick if I still ate refreshments while at the theater. I was pleasantly suprised. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Beatrix Kiddo at June 15, 2008, 6:33 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | I think overall this movie is entertaining. We have a nod to Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno gets pizza. We have 3 main fight scenes, all of which are done fairly well. The final fight scene with abomination, when Hulk and Abomination runs toward each other - there is a shot where they show them both up in the air, bodies intertwined - it looked rather sloppy, the CGI. Like two blobs meshed together. In Ang Lee's version Hulk just seemed to be stronger, like he could lift anything with his baby finger, in this version, it seems he has to put forth a bit more effort to lift an army truck. Tim Roth is the best part of this movie. I really enjoyed watching his performance. I think they did a really good job of nailing the romance between Betty and Bruce. It was captured very well, their sense of longing, struggle, desperation. I got a kick out of the bed scene where his pulse (on his watch) got too high and they had to stop the bedroom frolick. I think perhaps Connelly and Bana had a better chemistry, but Norton an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: phenotype31 at June 15, 2008, 6:01 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | My initial impression when I walked out was, "Better than The Happening at least." But by the time we got to the car I adjusted that to: More enjoyable to watch than The Happening. I thought it was fun and fine. Better than Ang Lee's. Nothing really special though. Iron Man is still the best super hero movie of 08. And the new Hancock trailer before this was FANTASTIC. I'm pretty much going to ignore the random negative stuff I've heard because I am really looking forward to Hancock now. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: crappertay at June 13, 2008, 5:25 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Hulk 2.0: Run Fight Run Fight Run Fight End Not bad for what it was, but what is was wasn't much. Oh, and it's gonna flop hard if UK audience is anything to go by. 9pm showing on opening friday and the theatre was barely quarter full. I was shocked. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 13, 2008, 4:16 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Murphy) What an extremely mediocre film. I'm not even sure if I liked it or not... I'm leaning more towards no. 5/10 Why do you and I agree on movies so often... but on absolutely nothing else? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 11, 2008, 8:20 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by moviegirl11) Hulk Clip airing during tonight's episode of Ghost Hunters Yeah, I turned the TV on at 9:00PM tonight on Sci Fi while I have been surfing the internet all while leaving my left eye and ear open. Side Note: As for the 26 minute final battle sequence not really being 26 minutes... well... lets hope that little lie doesn't hurt those box office numbers. Oh, well. Without really checking out any of the spoilers here in the thread...I think it is a plus that this film is a better film than Ang Lee's version. Anyways, I will more than likely see this tommorrow evening (at the Midnight showing). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moviegirl11 at June 11, 2008, 8:29 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Matt I was thinking the same thing. When I first read that Norton wasn't had a disagreement with the studio about the direction of the film, my first thought was - man, I'd love to see what his version of the movie would've looked like. How cool would it have been if they released both versions to see which one did better. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 11, 2008, 8:22 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) Remember how Ed Norton didn't have a dispute over the final cut of the movie but did really and everyone was really polite about it... Letterier claims 70 minutes of Hulk on cutting room floor. True? Or is Louis Letterier doing a Paul W.S. Anderson/AVP and making bullshit claims in response to luke-warm reviews. I can totally believe it. And I bet most of it is Norton in more dramatic scenes that help build the story but don't fit into the action. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Matt at June 11, 2008, 8:21 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quality cross-promotion there, MG11! You know, I have just never had any affinity for the Hulk. I hated the last movie because of Ang Lee. I'll watch this eventually but then again, I've never seen Fantastic Four part 1 or 2. My tolerance for superhero movies is minimal. If not for the kickass trailers and Favreau I probably wouldn't have seen Iron Man. I really wish I could have seen Edward Norton's cut of the movie. Maybe we can get the Edward Norton Cut instead of the Director's Cut. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: crappertay at June 11, 2008, 12:45 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Remember how Ed Norton didn't have a dispute over the final cut of the movie but did really and everyone was really polite about it... Letterier claims 70 minutes of Hulk on cutting room floor. True? Or is Louis Letterier doing a Paul W.S. Anderson/AVP and making bullshit claims in response to luke-warm reviews. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 10, 2008, 12:38 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Spoiler! Yes Deus, but that comes out of left field, it's not something the movie builds up to, and it's not something Banner is working on or anything throughout the movie. All of the sudden he's just like "oh I guess I'll do what she says"... primarily, we are left to assume, because of the "cure" he'd just gotten and not because of any internal struggle. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 10, 2008, 7:55 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Spoiler! I think you're reading a lot more into that final fight than is actually there. It only addresses that inner conflict in the vaguest of ways. Mostly he just punches something in the head, and then the movie ends with him right back where he was. Spoiler! The moment I'm referring to is the very end when he's about to kill Abomination and Elizabeth screams out for him to stop. He struggles to stop but finally overcomes the rage and is able to stop short of killing him. Why did she tell him to stop? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Dog Welder at June 10, 2008, 6:43 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | On internal conflict: Spoiler! There's no internal conflict really necessary because it's already resolved. Banner wants a cure, not to live with his situation. By the end of the film, he realizes his best hope for a cure failed and he needs to somehow come to grips with his condition and maybe learn to control it. This is keeping in line with the comics. On Sterns: Spoiler! Sterns becomes the Hulk villain known as the Leader. Instead of getting super strength from a gamma infusion, he gains heightened intelligence and a swollen brain area. His goal is to make a gamma-irradiated army under his own command. There's a moment in the film where it's obvious he's been hit by too many gamma rays. The lab full of Banner's blood is there to set up the sequel, not to resolve in this film. Hey, look! I figured out the spoiler tag. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Dog Welder at June 10, 2008, 6:09 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | I'm not really sure what people want out of a movie called "The Incredible Hulk." The character is all about action as far as the comic books go, and this movie delivers a good amount of action. Yes, they could have had more internal conflict with the Banner character, but after a film where they had WAY TOO MUCH of that, Marvel really had to get back to basics and redefine the character. Spoiler! The pavement pounding and the hand clap stuff? Right out of the comic books and cartoons that they did back in the 80s. This movie isn't going to win any Oscars, but it is an exciting action movie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 10, 2008, 12:53 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Spoiler! I think you're reading a lot more into that final fight than is actually there. It only addresses that inner conflict in the vaguest of ways. Mostly he just punches something in the head, and then the movie ends with him right back where he was. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 10, 2008, 12:06 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Spoiler! Yeah, but that's another one of those silly geek things. I think that's a classic Hulk move or something. Same as the thing he did with pounding on the ground. Spoiler! Ugh. I hated that. It felt like we'd switched to a cinematic from a Marvel Heroes fight style video game. But I guess you have to throw the fans a few things. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 10, 2008, 12:03 am | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) I agree. I said it's keeping me from giving it a negative review... not that I AM giving it a negative review. I am not, though if you took that silly stuff out of the equation I might. That silly stuff plays a pretty heavy part in the movie. There is a LOT of it, starting right from the opening credits with all the Stark Industry and SHEILD references. At least you admit Banner's internal struggle is non-existent. LOL It is not a bad movie, not at all. Just a very very mediocre one to me, and very very shallow one. I guess I don't see how you're coming up with shallow. There's a definite struggle for Banner, but for most of the movie it seems he's more pissed off that Ross used him to achieve his own war-mongering ends (strong parallels to the Tony Stark story lines). It never really addresses his struggle with what he's become even though the first three minutes seem bent on setting up that premise. I fully expected that was the story they were going to tell, but it fell b... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Josh at June 9, 2008, 11:58 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina) If you add all the fight scenes together where Banner is transformed into the Hulk it might total 26 minutes. Is that what he's getting at maybe? No, they specifically say the FINAL fight scene is 26 minutes... at least that's what I found when I just did a Google search. 26 minutes total fight time added up out of everything in the movie does seem a lot more accurate though. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 9, 2008, 11:57 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) 26 minutes is what Loius "Captain America is in my movie" Letterier has been claiming in interviews. I think it's safe to assume that was another lie to get the shallow fanboys geeked. If you add all the fight scenes together where Banner is transformed into the Hulk it might total 26 minutes. Is that what he's getting at maybe? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 9, 2008, 11:57 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Spoiler! Quote: Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina) The clapping out the fire was a bit much. Yeah, but that's another one of those silly geek things. I think that's a classic Hulk move or something. Same as the thing he did with pounding on the ground. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 9, 2008, 11:56 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina) C'mon. There's no way this deserves a negative review. I'll grant you mediocre, but not negative. The biggest flaw to me was that it was too long and dwelt too long on the Dr. Stearns "let's heal the Hulk" scene. In the end it didn't do a lick of difference, so all they needed to do was have Stearns say "I've looked and looked at this and there's no way to cure you. All the other test subjects..." and move right on to the revelation of the lab. That would have shaved 15 minutes off right there and left more opportunity to explore the gaping hole that was Banner's non-existent internal struggle with what he had become. I agree. I said it's keeping me from giving it a negative review... not that I AM giving it a negative review. I am not, though if you took that silly stuff out of the equation I might. That silly stuff plays a pretty heavy part in the movie. There is a LOT of it, starting right from the opening credits with all the Stark Industry and SHEILD referenc... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 9, 2008, 11:55 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) You can see what's going on. It's comeptently filmed. Obvious CGI, but not bad CGI. Nothing wrong with it, and Hulk does some geeky-fun things. Spoiler! The clapping out the fire was a bit much. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 9, 2008, 11:53 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) The crossover silliness is literally the only thing that's keeping me from giving the movie a negative review. C'mon. There's no way this deserves a negative review. I'll grant you mediocre, but not negative. The biggest flaw to me was that it was too long and dwelt too long on the Dr. Stearns "let's heal the Hulk" scene. In the end it didn't do a lick of difference, so all they needed to do was have Stearns say "I've looked and looked at this and there's no way to cure you. All the other test subjects..." and move right on to the revelation of the lab. That would have shaved 15 minutes off right there and left more opportunity to explore the gaping hole that was Banner's non-existent internal struggle with what he had become. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 9, 2008, 11:51 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Beatrix Kiddo) Well I will time it when I go see the movie. How is the final fight scene with Abomination, nicely done or fast and a quick blur like Transformers was. You can see what's going on. It's comeptently filmed. Obvious CGI, but not bad CGI. Nothing wrong with it, and Hulk does some geeky-fun things. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 9, 2008, 11:50 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina) If you start from Abomination's first attack on the city where he starts rampaging the army guys and clock it all the way to Hulk's final escape, it might be close to 20 minutes. But there are slower moments interspersed in there so I'm not sure the whole thing should qualify as one fight. I agree. If you start from the very second Abomination starts attacking MAYBE it's 20 minutes. MAYBE. But it's a good 10 - 15 minutes after that before he and Hulk fight, and there's a lot of stuff just talking in between. 26 minutes is a total lie in every way. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 9, 2008, 11:47 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Deus... is there any way that final fight scene is 26 minutes?? Am I crazy? It seriously seemed like 5 minutes. If you start from Abomination's first attack on the city where he starts rampaging the army guys and clock it all the way to Hulk's final escape, it might be close to 20 minutes. But there are slower moments interspersed in there so I'm not sure the whole thing should qualify as one fight. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at June 9, 2008, 11:46 pm | | Topic: The Incredible Hulk- Official Movie Thread Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Hulk had darker music and it rained a lot, but that doesn't automatically make it darker and more dramatic. The music and weather didn't make it dark. The drama made it dark. There were no planes with stripper poles and no one-liners in Hulk. | | Static Link |
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