| Posted by: wisdomsword at June 10, 2008, 4:44 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by ElderPredator Are you kidding me? You must be one of those movie fans who feels that Stanley Kubrick is the greatest filmmaker of all-time when I honestly believe he missed the point with most of his films. I honestly have no love for Lee's work but that doesn't mean that I don't love the style of films that he makes. I also hope you're not telling me that "Summer of Sam" was a good movie? Piece of shit! Finally, someone who share the same view with me about Kubrick. The only movie other than Inside Man (which wasn't all that good) from Spike I could still remember clearly is Girl 6. Now, someone should start making a special edition .44 Magnum revolver with the phase "Shut Your Face" carved on to the 6 inch barrel. It's going to sell. Oh, by the way, I don't remember ever hearing Spike Lee praising Micheal Bay for what he did in Pearl harbor. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BanksIsDaFuture at June 9, 2008, 11:23 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | I think Spike looked a little too hard into Flags of our Fathers. I'm sure Clint Eastwood didn't put Black people in it on purpose, he just wasn't thinking about putting them in for the sole reason of appeasing a slim minority who tried to see racism in every little thing. I would love to see Spike Lee and Clint Eastwood box though. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EBastard at June 9, 2008, 10:39 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Servo Spike Lee doesn't care about racial equality, just black vs. white issues. Hit the nail right on the fucking head. He's been gradually turning into a whiny, megalomaniac little bitch over the past few years. I like how he's FINALLY decided to mix it up a bit in his career with 25th Hour (2002, 6/10) and Inside Man (2006, 6/10), but as a human being...I truly think that man is ABSOLUTELY INCAPABLE of being content WITH ANYTHING in life. SHIVER ME TIMBERS... I MEAN, SERIOUSLY...THIS GUY'S KIDS MUST BE MISERABLE HAVING TO GO THROUGH GUILT TRIPS OVER HANGING OUT WITH WHITE KIDS EVERY NOW AND THEN. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hasselbrad at June 9, 2008, 3:21 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by outsyder So he busted out a slavery reference. Good to see Spike yet again lowering the bar for himself. Spike doesn't just play the race card, he does tricks with it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: psudoazn at June 9, 2008, 6:40 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | 1. I agree Spike Lee is a pain in the ass. 2. I agree with Clint Eastwood. 3. The one point I grant Lee is that black people may well have been involved with Iwo Jima. Could Eastwood have put in a few black people in the troupe? Probably....but it wouldn't necessarily have added anything. If we saw any black/white racial issues in his film, it probably would have detracted from the focus his main plotline. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Preston_79 at June 9, 2008, 12:42 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Servo Spike Lee doesn't care about racial equality, just black vs. white issues. If he did he would respect the portrayal of Native American Ira Hayes, one of the men who helped raise the flag. I'm sure if an African American marine physically helped raise the flag, Eastwood would've covered it. Spike seems to think otherwise, I guess. No doubt. Spike Lee is so behaving pathetically. That retort of his might appeal to some, but people with even a little awareness can see he's using the very same subtle tricks he cries foul about to perpetuate racism. Do you think he even watched Clint Eastwood's movie? I'd be willing to bet he didn't. It wouldn't be that hard to find out if there were any black roles in it, and then he just goes off at the mouth. What if the movie had an Asian guy, a Native American, and a Mexican, but still no black dude? Would that be cool with Mr. Lee? He's a fake intellectual. A better than average film maker, but still not the brightest. I'm glad Clint didn't... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Servo at June 8, 2008, 11:52 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Spike Lee doesn't care about racial equality, just black vs. white issues. If he did he would respect the portrayal of Native American Ira Hayes, one of the men who helped raise the flag. I'm sure if an African American marine physically helped raise the flag, Eastwood would've covered it. Spike seems to think otherwise, I guess. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Briare Rabbit at June 8, 2008, 7:42 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by ElderPredator Are you kidding me? You must be one of those movie fans who feels that Stanley Kubrick is the greatest filmmaker of all-time when I honestly believe he missed the point with most of his films. I honestly have no love for Lee's work but that doesn't mean that I don't love the style of films that he makes. I also hope you're not telling me that "Summer of Sam" was a good movie? Piece of shit! And you must be one of those movie fans who doesn't believe Kubrick was a master film maker. Which means, you are in the slim majority and even if some don't like him they acknowledge his craft. Missed the point with most of his films? I don't think he's the one who missed the point. And no, and I mean absolutely god damn mother fucking not if you think Inside Man is Spike Lee's only contribution to contemporary American cinema, I would strongly suggest you pay imdb a little visit. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: therealjohng at June 8, 2008, 6:43 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | I wanna hear Eastwood lay into Spike when his WWII movie comes out. I can hear Eastwood be like, "WTF Spike, where are all the white soldiers at? Talk about ignoring history, we all know white people helped win WWII." | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SweetEnLow at June 8, 2008, 6:34 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by echo_bravo Anyone remember the time Spike Lee wanted to dig up Babe Ruth's body because he swore that the Babe had some black in him. Haha I couldnt make this shit up. WTF | | Static Link |
| Posted by: echo_bravo at June 8, 2008, 3:20 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Anyone remember the time Spike Lee wanted to dig up Babe Ruth's body because he swore that the Babe had some black in him. Haha I couldnt make this shit up. I loved it when Reggie Miller hit that shot to beat the Knicks and turned to Spike Lee and did this... Yep, choke on that Spike. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: robk at June 8, 2008, 10:00 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Not that this is really significant, but I'd thought I'd note that there is a glimpse of African-American soldiers in Flags of our Fathers in the sequence where the soldiers on en route to Iwo Jima. Of course, someone like Spike is too busy b!tching to notice this, but I'd say it renders his claim of no such presence in that film pointless. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Benj at June 8, 2008, 1:55 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Everyone of every color is ruining the Earth, it has nothing to do with your color. So these arguments are pointless on both ends. I enjoy both of these dude's films, but I'm so sick of these kind of petty bickering's. Spike Lee, you use enough black people in one movie for both of your movies, which is rad, but Eastwood's gonna make what he wants to make, and he should be allowed to. It's not white power propaganda. Even then, censorship is not the answer, going and killing each white supremacists with our bare hands is the answer. Like Dirty Harry would do to some bad mother fuckers. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at June 8, 2008, 1:21 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | I might see Lee's point as far as Flags of our Fathers is concerned, since it was from the American POV of the Iwo Jima battle. But I can also understand Eastwood's as well since it is about the men who raised the flag, and the famous photograph. If there weren't any African Americans raising the flag, there weren't any raising the flag. BUT . . . Letters from Iwo Jima is about the Japanese effort in the war so the lack of African Americans in that movie makes absolute sense. I dont' think there were that many caucasians in the movie either. So Spike Lee is talking out of his ass about this movie. Why can't we all just get along. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SkyNet at June 8, 2008, 1:13 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | i had just read Lee's stupid ass retort.. man, i fucking hate that dude. I hate how people like him are all like "Oh the black man has been held down for so many years and we want equality" yet EVERYTHING to them is BLACK & WHITE.. how can we ever be equal if all you people ever do is fucking bitch and moan and make sure to point out EVERYTHING that separates us, yet never highlight the points that unite us! He then says that black ppl dont get a fair shake in WW2 flicks... which 1) Get off your ass and make a World War 2 movie that is ACCURATE and have your main character be a black dude.. if it bothers you THAT fucking much, quit making stupid ass movies like Girl 6 and Crooklyn and make a WW2 flick that tellss the story from an African Americans POV.. but then knowing Lee, he wont have any white people in the movie.. cuz u know, he is a fucking racist and all 2) i seem to remember the movie Pearl Harbor, featured Cuba Gooding Jr kickin some Kamikaze ass hole and portraying the first african ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Preston_79 at June 7, 2008, 7:18 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | If Clint Eastwood sounds like an angry old man, it's because he is one. Thanks for pointing out the obvious Spike. Spike Lee is a one trick pony with this me against the man attitude. He's just doing what media whores to today to remain relevant when there work isn't picking up the slack like it used to. I miss Mars Blackmon, the pinnacle of Spike's career. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: EvilHenchman at June 7, 2008, 6:41 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | I got so caught up in the coolness of Eastwood's retort that I lost sight of this little item in the OP, which probably more than anything else suggests why Spike made his remark in the first place: Quote: Originally Posted by SweetEnLow Lee's own film, about members of the all-black 92nd Buffalo Division, which fought in Italy, is an attempt to set second world war history straight. Spike is a notorious self-promoter - going back to his indie days. And nothing would help bring some heat and attention to his upcoming flick than a little controversy (lookit what it did for Passion of the Christ, after all). Not saying it justifies his attack on Clint (It doesn't). Just thought I'd put that morsel of an idea out there... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bourne101 at June 7, 2008, 6:14 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Scarface98.9 From IMDB: Latest: Outspoken moviemaker Spike Lee has fuelled the war of words between himself Clint Eastwood by calling the Hollywood icon "an angry old man." Hahahaha. Angry old man, nice comeback Lee you fucking dumbass. Quote: Originally Posted by Rated R The director says, "First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either... I didn't personally attack him, and a comment like `a guy like that should shut his face...' come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man. Oh my God this shit pisses me off. It always comes back to slavery. Quote: Originally Posted by Rated R "If he wishes, I could assemble African-American men who fought at Iwo Jima and I'd like him to tell these guys that what they did was insignificant and they did not exist. First of all, Flags is about the men who raised the flag. Secondly, Letters from Iwo Jima depicted the Japenese side of the war and there were only very few brief scenes contai... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Shockwave at June 7, 2008, 12:39 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | ..and Spike Leee completely misses the point Eastwood was trying to make. I swear, for all the shit about race that Lee talks, he comes off as such a bigot. "Were not on a plantation?" He talks like he was a slave himself or like hes owed something from Hollywood he didnt get. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Backstabba at June 7, 2008, 11:56 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | I think Lee made a stupid remark, one he shouldn't have made and one he should've thought about before making. Clint isn't saying that African American soldiers didn't help during WWII, he's saying they weren't in the group of soldiers that he focused on in the story. Could he have worked in a sub-plot with African American soldiers? Sure, I mean some critics already think the movie was overblown and etc, but we have to please everyone nowadays. Let's even forget the fact that one of the main characters is Native American. Clint proved Lee wrong, and Lee is doing the classic "Well, I made a immature remark earlier, so I'm going to sound more mature and condescending after I've been proven wrong." You can't (shouldn't, people have done it for the sake of film) change history. Eastwood stuck to history, and Lee is taking a cheap shot. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: eljefe15 at June 7, 2008, 11:43 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Scarface98.9 From IMDB: Eastwood strikes back Latest: Outspoken moviemaker Spike Lee has fuelled the war of words between himself Clint Eastwood by calling the Hollywood icon "an angry old man." Lee was upset when the Dirty Harry star used an interview in a British newspaper to attack the Malcolm X director over remarks he made about the lack of black actors in Eastwood's 2006 war films Flags of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima. The veteran suggested Lee should "shut his face," adding the younger director should get his facts right before lecturing him about African-American soldiers. Eastwood told Britain's The Guardian newspaper, "The story is Flags of our Fathers, the famous flag-raising picture, and they (black soldiers) didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people go: `This guy's lost his mind'. I mean, it's not accurate." But Lee isn't happy with Eastwood's comeback to comments he made at the Cannes Film ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Preston_79 at June 7, 2008, 10:30 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Can Spike Lee have a disagreement with a white dude with out making a reference to slavery, or black oppression. He seems like the type of dude who thinks white people are always trying to talk down to him. And what's this "I'm a student of history" any body can say that. Am I wrong. I know plenty of knuckle heads that never read, only watch the History Channel, and would probably say the same thing. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: therealjohng at June 7, 2008, 5:22 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by The Heart Collector This line of argument is dumb as hell. Saying that you are allowed to say that you don't like a director but not allowed to say the director sucks is just weak. What concern should I or anyone here have for someone's opinions when they can't be willing to truly make a case for them? I mean I'm sorry but saying you don't like Stanley Kubrick but you don't think he sucks is essentially saying "I cannot articulate why Stanley Kubrick sucks / I don't want to get yelled at by people". I don't like the end results of a lot of his films, but I think he has talent? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Tweek at June 7, 2008, 3:17 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Scarface98.9 The director says, "First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either... I didn't personally attack him, and a comment like `a guy like that should shut his face...' come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man. WTF? Quote: "If he wishes, I could assemble African-American men who fought at Iwo Jima and I'd like him to tell these guys that what they did was insignificant and they did not exist. "I'm not making this up. I know history. I'm a student of history. And I know the history of Hollywood and its omission of the one million African-American men and women who contributed to World War II." Eep. Just eep. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Scarface98.9 at June 7, 2008, 2:39 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | From IMDB: Eastwood strikes back Latest: Outspoken moviemaker Spike Lee has fuelled the war of words between himself Clint Eastwood by calling the Hollywood icon "an angry old man." Lee was upset when the Dirty Harry star used an interview in a British newspaper to attack the Malcolm X director over remarks he made about the lack of black actors in Eastwood's 2006 war films Flags of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima. The veteran suggested Lee should "shut his face," adding the younger director should get his facts right before lecturing him about African-American soldiers. Eastwood told Britain's The Guardian newspaper, "The story is Flags of our Fathers, the famous flag-raising picture, and they (black soldiers) didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people go: `This guy's lost his mind'. I mean, it's not accurate." But Lee isn't happy with Eastwood's comeback to comments he made at the Cannes Film Festival last month. The director says, &... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TeeRay at June 7, 2008, 12:54 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by sarah1980 agreed just because Lee directed Do The Right Thing he thinks he's the best director ever get your fucking head checked out dude I'm going to go ahead and assume you quoted the wrong post, because I didn't say shit about him as a director, I just said that Eastwood was awesome for telling Spike Lee to shut up. As for Spike Lee the director, I like his movies. I like Inside Man and Do The Right Thing yada yada, but as a personality, he irritates me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: The Heart Collector at June 7, 2008, 12:52 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | This line of argument is dumb as hell. Saying that you are allowed to say that you don't like a director but not allowed to say the director sucks is just weak. What concern should I or anyone here have for someone's opinions when they can't be willing to truly make a case for them? I mean I'm sorry but saying you don't like Stanley Kubrick but you don't think he sucks is essentially saying "I cannot articulate why Stanley Kubrick sucks / I don't want to get yelled at by people". | | Static Link |
| Posted by: someguy at June 7, 2008, 12:37 am | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by ElderPredator We as movie fans only love certain genres or styles of films yet most people can't accept that. I think Spike Lee sucks and I'm not the only one that can't stand him. My best friend buys Criterion films and foreign language films that no one has ever heard of and even he thinks that Spike is overrated. I understand that you don't think Spike Lee has no talent and that you just personally don't like him but wtf is this post 'not everyone likes spike lee, hey look someone into criterion films doesn't like him DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MINDDDDDD????' | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LordSimen at June 6, 2008, 11:33 pm | | Topic: EASTWOOD TELLS LEE TO 'SHUT HIS FACE' Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by darkface When reading... did anyone else use Clint's awesome voice during his quotes? Good for Clint for defending himself and setting it straight. And good for him for being outspoken and tough in a wussy world. http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=20 Hell yeah. | | Static Link |
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