| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 24, 2008, 8:22 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by stringerbell Clash of the Titans... wait...which God are we talking about here?
Best reply on the whole freaking thread. The god Zeus appears in Clash of the Titans.... And the Devil in that movie is called Calibos. This reply just game me an idea. Lets revive this thread by posting different gods from different movies...not just the christian god and devil, but gods from other religions as well. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thirdeye at June 21, 2008, 4:28 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey Dont know how many of you guys watch horror movies from Spain, but this film called El Dia de la Bestia (The Day of the Beast) is really excellent. Highly recommend you guys search it out. Its about a priest who wants to do as much evil as he can so he can meet the antichrist, and kill him. Pretty nifty concept, and a very interesting film. Its directed by Alex de la Iglesia, who also directed Perdita Durango ( aka Wake the Devil) with Javier Barden. Anyhows, this is a scene from The Day of the Beast in which the devil appears as a black goat: I love that movie. Their reaction when the goat appears for the first time is absolutely hilarious. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Kilar at June 20, 2008, 12:23 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Man, that Prophecy poster is really damn cool. I only ever saw the dvd cover, which is not that design. Rockin' my socks off. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 10, 2008, 7:55 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by nayland SERVANTS OF THE TWILIGHT..It's from a DEAN KOONTZ book. I think it cmae out around 89. I think? but that had a really basic story. Religious cult try to kill a kid who may or not be the anti-christ. To this day the twists and turns that movie takes are some of my favorites to this day. Yeah, though I am drawn towards religously themed movies, Servants of the Twilight was a real let down. Thought it was badly directed, and its too dark. I mean, I know the movie is called Servants of Twilight, but come on, we still need to see whats going on! But overall, it felt too cheesy to be taken seriously. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nayland at June 9, 2008, 9:05 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | SERVANTS OF THE TWILIGHT..It's from a DEAN KOONTZ book. I think it cmae out around 89. I think? but that had a really basic story. Religious cult try to kill a kid who may or not be the anti-christ. To this day the twists and turns that movie takes are some of my favorites to this day. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 9, 2008, 9:11 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Im also interested in characters that play God like roles and that represent God in the story. For example, Emma Thompsons character in Stranger than Fiction. In this movie Ferrell is looking for the author who wrote his life story, to question her why he is going to die. She is God in this movie, and Ferrell is man questioning God about death. This movie is very similar in themes to Ridley Scott's Blade Runner . On this film, the replicants (basically a bunch of rebel cyborgs) are looking for their creator to question him about their eventual deaths. Why do we last so little?? Why cant we live more? Essentially, Tyrell is God (the creator) and the replicants are man, questioning their creator about why they have to die so soon. In fact, this movie goes a little further, it shows extreme anger towards god, and even goes as far as to actually killing him. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 9, 2008, 8:49 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 Perhaps depicting god in film is breaking at least two commandments: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." I think my point is that it may not be fear of religious organizations but rather a fear of God himself. No, I am not preaching . . . I am an atheist. Preach on brother! Just kidding Auge, But I dont really think most filmakers actually fear showing god in their films because of fear of god, or becau... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: MightyCelestial at June 7, 2008, 7:33 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | My fave God movies: 5. Bruce Almighty - I usually tend not to like Jim Carry in softer comedies, but for me, he pulled it off in this movie. 4. Oh God - Just a fave of mine as a kid. 3. Last Temptation Of Christ*- Best. Jesus. Movie. Ever. 2. The 10 Commandments God kix ass in this one, yo. So let it be written, so let it be done. 1. Dogma - God does not look like Alanis. Just sayin'. My fave Satan flicks: 5. Hellboy *- Satan's boy rebels 'gainst his father by fighting on the side of the angels. 4. Legend - Satan in the form a badass hoof-cloven devil. 3. The Omen - Satan in the form of a little boy. 2. Rosemary's Baby - Satan in the form of a baby. 1. The Exorcist - Satan in the form of a little girl. * movies that for me, are close enuff. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at June 6, 2008, 11:21 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | {B]mel1ssa [/b]- Of course there is something to be said for your therory as well (read below). From Wiki: Hail Mary (French: Je vous salue, Marie) is a 1985 French film written and directed by Jean-Luc Godard. The film is a modern retelling of the birth of Jesus Christ. Plot The movie tells of the "Virgin Mary", Marie (Myriem Roussel), who works at a Swiss gas station. She plays basketball for a local team, claims to be a virgin and maintains a chaste relationship with her boyfriend Joseph (Thierry Rode), who is a taxi cab driver. When a passing stranger named Uncle Gabriel (Phillippe Lacoste) informs Marie that she will become pregnant despite remaining chaste, she is at first shocked and confused. In time, Joseph's anger subsides, and the expectant couple marries. They raise their son, Jesus (Malachi Jara Kohan), who eventually leaves his family to pursue "his father's business." Meanwhile Marie explores her sexuality, seeking to link her individual body and spirit. Reception Hail Mary... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mel1ssa at June 6, 2008, 11:00 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 I think my point is that it may not be fear of religious organizations but rather a fear of God himself. very interesting, auge. i wouldn't have thought of this. i suppose the cynicism in me wouldn't allow me to assume that the filmmakers themselves are religious -- just that they wanted to profit from spirituality, or at least prevent spirituality from hampering their profits. a sin to portray god in a movie... hmmm... i can almost hear the mob's cries of blasphemy rising now... doesn't necessarily explain the presence of god-like figures in comedies versus absence in dramas, horrors (where it's likely most needed!), action, etc. my (cynical, of course) take would be that the more serious the movie, the more risk there is for controversy. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at June 6, 2008, 5:16 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Perhaps depicting god in film is breaking at least two commandments: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." I think my point is that it may not be fear of religious organizations but rather a fear of God himself. No, I am not preaching . . . I am an atheist. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at June 6, 2008, 5:09 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | An Artcle from: The Journal of Religion and Film http://www.unomaha.edu/jrf/greeleya.htm in which the author says: "Movies may emphasize the merciful, but the images of God include both mercy and justice and the emphasis mirrors the emphasis on mercy in our own culture. We are, on the whole, optimists, and the images of God in the movies support such optimism." But he has cherry picked these images and have left out all of the darker images of God . . . read it and draw your own conclusions about what he has to say. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Luv2Run at June 5, 2008, 1:57 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | If it was a limited release in the USA, it would be fine. People would be upset, refuse to go to the movie, etc. I'm not so sure about that in a world wide release. Just today- the country of Jordan wants to prosecute the Danish editors for breaking the Jordanian law of not printing Mohammud. It is punishable by 3 years imprisonment. In America (by contrast) when they put a crucifix into a jar of urine for the sake of "art", there was outrage, and a national debate,but no one went to jail. No one was even tried in a court of law. So I think we all agree on that one (spacemonkey and mel1issa). Anyway, my vote for God's voice has to be James Earl Jones, although I'm not sure that he's actually done that voice before... Help anyone? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 5, 2008, 8:09 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by mel1ssa i'm not as dismissive of luv2run's thought, spacemonkey. while i wish it were true, i doubt those churches would behave the way you predict. think of harry potter and some of the silly controversy some groups made over that. now, put an actor or actress in a god-role in a film that large groups don't agree is fitting to their god or behaving in such a way that they feel their god would never behave and you have a spark ready to explode. i don't necessarily think there would be violence, or anything, but there would be boycotts and loud segments on fox news so fast your head would spin. faith is entirely and completely subjective. organized religion is controlling and 'hive-like'. hollywood knows this so we have scared filmmakers who in the end only want to make $$ and won't risk it if their wallets are threatened. try to tell the catholic or baptist church that god doesn't belong to them. i think they will strongly disagree... I agree with you Melissa, there would defenetl... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 5, 2008, 8:04 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Le_Big_Mac It deals with real history (more so the history of things that aren't real). But the movie is mostly people acting out situations, some of which were real (like witch trials) and others that are just things of fantasy that were once believed to be true (such as the demonic celebrations where everyone has to literally kiss the Devil's ass). It's mostly a sophisticated exercise in shock, but it does exactly that which it intends to. Well thanx for that review man, Its already on my must watch list! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at June 5, 2008, 5:47 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Danger^Cart Harvey Keitel in that one baseball commercial. Didn't he play the devil in Little Nickey as well? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Obergeist at June 5, 2008, 5:25 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Here's a stretch but in Ingmar Bergman's "Through A Glass Darkly" a character says this. ‘The door opened, but the God was a spider. He came up to me and I saw his face. It was a terrible, stony face. He scrambled up and tried to penetrate me, but I defended myself. All along I saw his eyes. They were cold and calm. When he couldn’t penetrate me, he continued up my chest, up into my face and onto the wall. I have seen God.’ She only describes seeing God but her words are so powerful that most dvd covers for this movie take the image. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mel1ssa at June 4, 2008, 8:35 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey I dont think it would have effects of that magnitude Luv. In the U.S., its ok to make fun of stuff, as was mentioned before, God likes to appear in comedies, I guess the dudes got a sense of humor. Just look at the platypus. Also, we have freedom of speech and God is not copyrighted. It doesnt belong to the catholic church, or the presbetyrian church, or the baptist...its a concept that belongs to everybody and everybody has a right to say what they want. In the eloquent words of Kumar in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay: "Because this is America, dude, and as long as I have my freedom of speech no one's going to shut me up" i'm not as dismissive of luv2run's thought, spacemonkey. while i wish it were true, i doubt those churches would behave the way you predict. think of harry potter and some of the silly controversy some groups made over that. now, put an actor or actress in a god-role in a film that large groups don't agree is fitting to their g... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at June 4, 2008, 8:13 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by spacemonkey Why do you put "documentary" in quotation marks, is it not really a documentary? Is it a mockumentary? It deals with real history (more so the history of things that aren't real). But the movie is mostly people acting out situations, some of which were real (like witch trials) and others that are just things of fantasy that were once believed to be true (such as the demonic celebrations where everyone has to literally kiss the Devil's ass). It's mostly a sophisticated exercise in shock, but it does exactly that which it intends to. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: adamjohnson at June 4, 2008, 6:36 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | There's a lot of great appearances by the Devil, not the least of which are VIGGO MORTENSON in the PROPHECY and PETER STORMARE in CONSTANTINE But God never appers, because the inference in Christian mythology has always been: to beset eyes on God, in any form, is too powerful for even your soul to handle, and you will be blinked from existence. Pretty 'convenient' if i do say so myself. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 4, 2008, 3:44 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Luv2Run spacemonkey, I would be interested in seeing God in a dramatic movie too. But I'd be concerned about the final product- mel1ssa had a great point there, but in more ways than one. For example, if the cartoon of the prophet Mohammad caused the problems in Europe that it has, what effect could this have?- scary thought. I dont think it would have effects of that magnitude Luv. In the U.S., its ok to make fun of stuff, as was mentioned before, God likes to appear in comedies, I guess the dudes got a sense of humor. Just look at the platypus. Also, we have freedom of speech and God is not copyrighted. It doesnt belong to the catholic church, or the presbetyrian church, or the baptist...its a concept that belongs to everybody and everybody has a right to say what they want. In the eloquent words of Kumar in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay: "Because this is America, dude, and as long as I have my freedom of speech no one's going to shut me up" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: AversionTherapy at June 4, 2008, 2:57 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by Sgt Politeness Not necessarily dealing with the Christian concept of God, but still an interesting portrayal... and a damn fine film.
Is that a major spoiler for the flick as im looking forward to watching this next week!! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Luv2Run at June 4, 2008, 2:43 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Best satan (for me) is a tie: The aforementioned Peter Stormare was great, and Viggio Mortensen in The Prophecy was very chilling- perched on the wall, eating a rose- "I'll fill your mouth with feces and lay you out." I loved Morgan Freeman as God in the "Almighty" movies- simple and content but immediately gaining respect from those around him. Freeman is one of the few actors that can pull that off before he even speaks. spacemonkey, I would be interested in seeing God in a dramatic movie too. But I'd be concerned about the final product- mel1ssa had a great point there, but in more ways than one. For example, if the cartoon of the prophet Mohammad caused the problems in Europe that it has, what effect could this have?- scary thought. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 4, 2008, 12:47 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Dont know how many of you guys watch horror movies from Spain, but this film called El Dia de la Bestia (The Day of the Beast) is really excellent. Highly recommend you guys search it out. Its about a priest who wants to do as much evil as he can so he can meet the antichrist, and kill him. Pretty nifty concept, and a very interesting film. Its directed by Alex de la Iglesia, who also directed Perdita Durango ( aka Wake the Devil) with Javier Barden. Anyhows, this is a scene from The Day of the Beast in which the devil appears as a black goat: | | Static Link |
| Posted by: corran horn at June 4, 2008, 12:10 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Can't find a photo of him, but Lucifer appears in Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders (one of my favorite MST3K episodes). "Do you believe in magic now?" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sgt Politeness at June 4, 2008, 12:07 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Not necessarily dealing with the Christian concept of God, but still an interesting portrayal... and a damn fine film. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ListersParanoia at June 4, 2008, 10:44 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by AversionTherapy I think that Peter Stormare did the best job as satan! I COMPLETELY agree. I love this actor anyways but I love how sleazy and unclean they made him look in this one, the red rings around the eyes and the missing eyebrows etc. I think it's cool that they chose to clothe him in all white, almost like he's still trying to pass himself off as being clean and pure like other angels... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 4, 2008, 7:20 am | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Le_Big_Mac I saw the infamous silent "documentary" Haxan, about the history of witchcraft and sorcery, recently and that features Satan and other demons multiple times. Certainly a strange movie. HOly schnikees, you just made me want to rent this documentary thingy, Id heard about it before, but the fact that it wasnt a movie movie sort of turned me off from watching it, but that pic you posted kicks ass. Why do you put "documentary" in quotation marks, is it not really a documentary? Is it a mockumentary? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at June 3, 2008, 4:37 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | I saw the infamous silent "documentary" Haxan, about the history of witchcraft and sorcery, recently and that features Satan and other demons multiple times. Certainly a strange movie. And I'm surprised no one's mentioned this one yet for God: | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 3, 2008, 2:54 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by crodger And End of Days has Gabriel Byrne hamming it up as the Devil. Id forgotten about this one! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 3, 2008, 2:51 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | "Im Devil I can do what I waaant..." Satan can do comedies too! Dave Grohl as Satan in Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at June 3, 2008, 2:37 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | That movie sounds interesting, gonna see if I can find it. On these shots from Stephen Kings The Stand, we can see Satan clearly, unfortunately only gods hand appears on this film, via a super cheesy special effect: Thats another thing from god appearing in certain movies, sometimes we just see his "power" since he is so powerful we cant even see him. BTW, on the bible it states that if any human being would see god he would die, so Im guessing that has something to do with it as well. And this was hands down the worst rendition Ive ever seen of the devil! Jane Fonda sucked in Ghost Rider! Im still trying to forget it: | | Static Link |
| Posted by: auge_28 at June 3, 2008, 1:26 pm | | Topic: God and The Devil in films. Forum: JoBlo | | Don't know if any of you have watched this but I caught it a very long time ago on VHS and have been looking for it on disk. Jeff Goldblum as the devil himself. Mister Frost is a 1990 psychological thriller film starring Jeff Goldblum as Frost (his first name is never given), a superficially charming but deeply sinister patient in a mental asylum. At the film's beginning a police detective (Alan Bates) visits Frost's palatial French estate to investigate a string of killings, and Frost, with very little prompting, cheerfully admits that he has many bodies buried in his yard. Frost is then placed in an asylum where he doesn't speak for two years, and during this time the police are unable to establish his identity and the detective becomes obsessed by Frost and his crimes. Frost's long silence is broken when he encounters Sarah Day (Kathy Baker), a new doctor at the asylum. Frost tells her that he is, in fact, Satan, and announces that he plans to goad her into murdering him. Day is reluctant to believe he is... | | Read Entire Entry |
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