| Posted by: LadyShelley at June 3, 2008, 6:35 pm | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Into) Pirates will find away around it..nothings ever stopped the scene before, and this is a minor quip really, but it treats paying theater goes like absolute shit. Quoted for truth. Once again the 95% of the honest theater goers out there are punished for the other 5% (and I think that's a generous number frankly) who are trying to pirate the film. And as someone pointed out, the *theater* takes the heat if anyone complains about the sound issues not the production company. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 3, 2008, 1:27 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by LadyShelley) If this is true (anyone found confirmation) this will be added to my ever growing list of reasons not to see movies in a theater. It's pretty much confirmed. The Film-Tech forum I referenced in my story is full of projectionists confirming it, and even has some pictures of the big blobs on the audio tracks which were put there by Paramount. Plus, it's something they're already known to be doing in Europe. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: LadyShelley at June 2, 2008, 9:13 pm | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | If this is true (anyone found confirmation) this will be added to my ever growing list of reasons not to see movies in a theater. The set up in the house is such that it's a special flick (which Indy would rate) that would get me to pay the stupid amount of money, to sit and listen to other people talk through the film, when I could just wait for the DVD. As has been pointed out, we figured out a simple work around for this "piracy control" in a few hours tops, probably minutes really. Yep, that's an effective deterrent and hey look at that, the regular customer is again given the shaft all in the name of combating piracy. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Volante at June 2, 2008, 3:25 pm | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Based on what I was reading last night, it almost sounds like it's more designed to catch people dubbing it straight off the print from the booth or something. I think I read something which says if you try to dub it off the gap is bigger or something. Totally out of my depth, I don't know. Ultimately though it's not a 1/69 of a second gap though in most theaters. Which is crap. That's the thing, even those copies end up getting compressed for online distribution. So stupid. And yeah, two theaters, merge the audio tracks, np. THAT's child's play...assuming that child's an audiophile on the side. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 2, 2008, 3:18 pm | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Volante) You know, with the added compression that goes into pirate copies, would you even notice the drop? Not being something I've played around with, I don't know what the effects of relatively high mp3 compression on a 1/69 sec gap would be. Based on what I was reading last night, it almost sounds like it's more designed to catch people dubbing it straight off the print from the booth or something. I think I read something which says if you try to dub it off the gap is bigger or something. Totally out of my depth, I don't know. Ultimately though it's not a 1/69 of a second gap though in most theaters. Which is crap. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 2, 2008, 2:31 pm | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | From what I gather, on theaters with the most absolute newest, most state of the art sound system you may not notice it. On those, I think it's supposed to only be a 1/69 of a second drop in the sound level. However, 90% of theaters don't have that sound system and from what I read, in those that do not, it can cause noticable sound level drops. As someone pointed out in the comments section on my story, all pirates have to do to get around this is splice their copies together from two different theaters. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 2, 2008, 10:37 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Music can make or break a movie. Mess around with it...and you risk creating a piece of poop instead. Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) Sssssh, Jabba. Stop talking sense. Ha, ha, ha... yeah... its sad that they really don't take a step back and look at what they are really doing for a change. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Abscynthe at June 2, 2008, 10:24 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Just one of the many reasons why I'm shying away from watching movies in theaters and just waiting for the DVD release. At least I'm in control of muting in my own home. Is it actually muting dialogue? Or just music? I'd lash out more about muting dialogue than the soundtrack. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Volante at June 2, 2008, 9:52 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) What's the ****ing logic anyway. Oooh, you know which theatre it was in. I guess that'll help pinpoint EXACTLY which one of the 12,000 anonymous people who went to see Indy 4 in that screen pirated your movie. Busted! Actually, if they find out what theater it was at, they could rain hell on the poor theater: withhold movies, promotional material, you know, make the theater an even WORSE place to go. All so the Paramount CEO's stock can go up a quarter of a point... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Volante at June 2, 2008, 9:46 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by electricloseyland) Would this even put a dent in piracy? How do they do it these days? I'm sure they don't sit in the theater holding camcorders, Jerry Seinfeld-style, anymore. The very first releases often are done this way, but eventually you'll get one by a projectionist who can shove a DVR straight into a spare audio out on the machine. But from what I gather, this is designed to combat that as the mutes are on the prints themselves. Glad I don't go to the theater anymore... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 2, 2008, 9:22 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah... I think it is kind of childish for a big profitable company to get this worked up about piracy. They already make enough money on the merchanding alone (such as toys, posters, comics, shirts, ECT). Yeah, there are going to be people making crappy bootleg movies and soundtracks.... but a lot of people who truly loved the movie will end up buying it on DVD anyways (Probably twice if they make an extended or collectors edition). Personally, I can't watch bootlegs. They are usually of crumby quality and they have no special features. Now there is a good number of people who pirate DVDs. That is where Paramount should primarily focus its effort in protecting their movies. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: crappertay at June 2, 2008, 9:15 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Y'know I have noticed this on many movies recently. I have been cursing my multiplex for not getting it's sound system serviced often enough. Guess I was wrong. What assholes. What ****ing idiotic backward ****ed up assholes. I think I'll save my $30 a month I normally spend in theatres in a savings account for investing in a 60" LCD and a Blu Ray player and then go **** your cinema tickets altogether. Then who's fault is the falling ****ing box office you cocksuckers. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Darth Tater at June 2, 2008, 8:25 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | I find it very odd that Lucas would even allow that on one of his movies. He's always been at the forefront of pushing the boundaries for the theatrical experience in sound and vision. I would find it even odder if he didn't have a say, being the control freak that he is. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electricloseyland at June 2, 2008, 7:32 am | | Topic: Indiana Jones soundtrack MUTED in THEATERS to fight PIRACY Forum: Film Hobbit | | Sheesh. I may stop going to theaters altogether, just BitTorrent all the new blockbusters and watch them on my home theater. Good strategy, Paramount! Would this even put a dent in piracy? How do they do it these days? I'm sure they don't sit in the theater holding camcorders, Jerry Seinfeld-style, anymore. | | Static Link |
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