| Posted by: Beatrix Kiddo at June 9, 2008, 11:10 am | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | I think whether you like Sandler or not, there was really no doubting that Zohan would be a success. Look at Sandler's track record. Isn't this like his seventh consecutive year of having a movie that grossed $100 m+? My favourite Sandler movie to date is Wedding Singer. I can play that one scene over and over again, where he sings "Love Stinks" and mocks some of the guests at their tables. Too funny. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Captain Murphy at June 6, 2008, 4:36 am | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | I liked Zohan quite a bit, I chuckled through pretty much all of it and it had plenty of lol's. I thought it got a bit preachy towards the end and could have been about 15-20 minutes shorter, but I was far from bored. This is probably my favorite Sandler movie since Punch-Drunk Love. 7/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: electricloseyland at June 5, 2008, 10:51 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | This guy has opened my eyes! Sandler is little more than Pat Buchanan with a funny voice. Look at how Carl Weathers -- the only black character in Happy Gilmore -- is treated. He's lost his hand -- and therefore his ability to provide for himself -- just like how all Republicans want to keep the black man down! And of course, it's up to Happy to give Carl Weathers a purpose -- to help the white character. How benevolent. Happy Gilmore is nothing but Driving Miss Daisy with f-bombs. And is there a more Republican sport than golf? I think not. Oh, and one more thing: Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) In his rant Kohn stops just short of blaming the Sandman for 9/11. But I won't. Adam Sandler caused 9/11. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 5, 2008, 10:38 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) No sweat Jabba. So you going to see it now? You and I have exactly the same tastes in Sandler movies, and I really liked it. It takes a lot for me to see a comedy in the theater. I only seen 50 first dates in the theater because my brother and his wife wanted to see it. However, I am definitely going to rent Zohan when it probably comes out on DVD this fall or winter (thats for sure). My must see in the theater films are: 1. Hulk 2. Hellboy 3. Dark Knight 4. Hancock 5. Quatum of Solace 6. The Spirit | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 10:33 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Witch King) Yeah, and I hate almost every movie he's been in because I hate Adam Sandler's shtick. It makes the movies he's in suck. Is that bad? Is it bias? It is if you're a critic and you walk into a movie determined to hate it because you have some sort of vendetta against Adam Sandler. Quote: Oh yeah, 50 First Dates. I forgot about that. It was pretty good, probably because his shtick wasn't laid on thick. Then even you like Adam Sandler more than critics, because even 50 First Dates did not get good reviews. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Witch King at June 5, 2008, 10:29 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) Yes, that's exactly my point. The comedy isn't the problem, it's a bias against Adam Sandler. Yeah, and I hate almost every movie he's been in because I hate Adam Sandler's shtick. It makes the movies he's in suck. Is that bad? Is it bias? Quote: Originally Posted by crappertay) A lot of them suck, but accusations of conservative propaganda is just plain ridiculous. What the hell??? Agreed. Quote: Wedding Singer was okay, 50 First Dates was fun, Happy Gilmore was just plain stupid but watchable and Click was enjoyable and Reign Over Me was okay but missed the mark slightly. Oh yeah, 50 First Dates. I forgot about that. It was pretty good, probably because his shtick wasn't laid on thick. I despise Happy Gilmore. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 10:27 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Witch King) Now, I haven't seen 40YOV, but isn't the major difference between a comedy like that and Adam Sandler crap the fact that Adam Sandler crap has Adam Sandler in it? I think Sandler can act, but his comedy attempts make me want to change the channel or hit the DVD player with a hammer. Fortunately, I've never spent a ticket on him. Yes, that's exactly my point. The comedy isn't the problem, it's a bias against Adam Sandler. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Witch King at June 5, 2008, 10:26 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: I can’t begin to explain how a critic who praises and embraces the raunchy humor of The 40-Year-Old Virgin turns around and bashes the same thing in a Sandler movie, but it happens. Now, I haven't seen 40YOV, but isn't the major difference between a comedy like that and Adam Sandler crap the fact that Adam Sandler crap has Adam Sandler in it? I think Sandler can act, but his comedy attempts make me want to change the channel or hit the DVD player with a hammer. Fortunately, I've never spent a ticket on him. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 5, 2008, 10:21 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Right. Didn't catch that. Probably because when I hear the word "terrorist" it instantly sets off my rage which of course effects my reasoning and listening centers of my brain. Maybe thats why I've always liked the Hulk so much. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 10:17 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Cup of Jabba) However, I personally don't want to see Zohan because I really don't feel like sympathizing with a character who even remotely smells like an ex terrorist. It just makes my stomach turn thinking about it. Well then you're in luck... because that isn't what the movie is about. You haven't been paying attention to the trailers. Zohan is an ISRAELI and an ex COUNTER Terrorist. That means he FIGHTS terrorists. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cup of Jabba at June 5, 2008, 10:16 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Billy Madison is like one of my all time favorite comedies. It is one of those movies that is not just funny but it sticks with you because of the characters, lines, and situations are so ridiculously memorable. Happy Gilmore is another great Adam Sandler classic. If you can't laugh at Bob Barker getting in a fist fight with Sandler than something is definitely wrong at home. Wedding Singer is yet another in a line of excellent Adam Sandler comedies. Goofy spoof on music from the 80s doesn't get any better than this. 50 First Dates surprisingly was descent. It had enough funny moments to just keep a float with his other three great comedies (mentioned above). However, I personally don't want to see Zohan because I really don't feel like sympathizing with a character who even remotely smells like an ex terrorist. It just makes my stomach turn thinking about it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kayhasty at June 5, 2008, 4:22 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Matt) I understand your point but critics are overly harsh on comedies. It's to the point that it's bias against comedies. You're right. Comedies are much more subjective to judge than straight-up dramas-- whether or not its effective is entirely based on a critic's sense of humor. And since most critics are older, and most comedies are aimed at younger audiences, nearly all of them miss the mark. Except, for whatever reason, Superbad . That one still beats me, even though I loved it. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: kayhasty at June 5, 2008, 4:08 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Quote: Originally Posted by Josh) I just think it's ridiculous that so many of his movies are pratically regarded as comedy classics by the average joe... and NONE of them have ever gotten even mediocre reviews. You look at his filmography at RT, and they're ALL right at 33%. Which makes you think the same people hate him every time, regardless of the movie he's in, and regardless of whether it's any good or not. In defense of big bad critics, it's really hard to judge comedy, especially absurdist comedy, when it's brand new. Silly movies like Zohan or Austin Powers become much more fun as part of a group experience, whereas critics might be seeing them with four other people at some screening. I think you'd find a lot of critics comfortable saying Happy Gilmore is hilarious. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 3:58 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | I don't HATE Big Daddy. It's not one of his really awful films like Little Nicky or Mr. Deeds. But for me, I wouldn't put it up there with Happy Gilmore, 50 First Dates, Wedding Singer, or Billy Madison. It's a tweener for me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 1:47 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | I don't think it has anything to do with the guy being a liberal. Well I mean he's obviously an EXTREME liberal. But I don't think even the most extremist liberals would generally say this. Sandler movies are extremely non-political. I guess he just can't comprehend the notion that someone could vote for a republican and not make a propaganda movie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Matt at June 5, 2008, 1:46 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | Yeah, of all criticisms of Sandler, this is the stupidest. Sounds more like that we have a liberal idiot at Cinematical who can't comprehend that someone has a differing viewpoint than his. I thought that openmindedness was taught in Liberalism 101? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2008, 1:45 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | But you're right, not all of his movies are great. A lot of them are though. I even think Billy Madison is hilarious. I just think it's ridiculous that so many of his movies are pratically regarded as comedy classics by the average joe... and NONE of them have ever gotten even mediocre reviews. You look at his filmography at RT, and they're ALL right at 33%. Which makes you think the same people hate him every time, regardless of the movie he's in, and regardless of whether it's any good or not. This ridiculous article from this Eric Kohn guy is just pouring salt on the wound. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: crappertay at June 5, 2008, 1:32 pm | | Topic: Adam Sandler movies: conservative propaganda? Forum: Film Hobbit | | A lot of them suck, but accusations of conservative propaganda is just plain ridiculous. What the hell??? Wedding Singer was okay, 50 First Dates was fun, Happy Gilmore was just plain stupid but watchable and Click was enjoyable and Reign Over Me was okay but missed the mark slightly. Most of his other movies I don't have time for. However, this politicizing of EVERY****ING THING has to STOP. | | Static Link |
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