| Posted by: Potzer! 37 at May 13, 2008, 10:45 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by a7xfan how did crank, snatch and (sigh) iron man redefine the industry? not mentioning that iron man has been out for a fortnight? and its has apparantly redefined the way to make an action movie? i hope you were kidding about it being possible the best acted movie for the last ten years? i can mention 5 movies off the top of my head that easily surpass that of iron man's acting the departed the pursuit of happyness the matrix little miss sunshine no country for old men seriously dude, i understand it being your personal opinion, but the way to explained it was really ridiculous to read. i'll mention the birds and the shawshank redemption I agree on the stuff regarding Iron Man...my question lies in the Shawshank Redemption...explain it too me please...I don't get what makes this movie so amazing. Good and all, but I saw it the one time and forgot it...maybe because I liked the book first? I dunno...anyway, please shed some light on the love that film gets. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at May 13, 2008, 7:08 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Powerslave John Cassavetes is often said to have started the American independent film movement, so his movies deserve mention. Jim Jarmusch also, if only for Stranger Than Paradise and Down By Law. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Powerslave at May 13, 2008, 5:25 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Shinigami Does anybody know a list of films that defined the independent movie scene? I know a lot of early horror movies were made for shoestrings, so I suppose they could be argued. Pulp fiction, maybe? Any help? I wonder what films defined the term grindhouse scene, too. Cannibal holocaust is definitely one, but I can't think of any others. John Cassavetes is often said to have started the American independent film movement, so his movies deserve mention. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: a7xfan at May 13, 2008, 3:52 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Max Cady Snatch Goodfellas Crank Iron Man Havoc Citizen Kane American Gangster how did crank, snatch and (sigh) iron man redefine the industry? not mentioning that iron man has been out for a fortnight? and its has apparantly redefined the way to make an action movie? i hope you were kidding about it being possible the best acted movie for the last ten years? i can mention 5 movies off the top of my head that easily surpass that of iron man's acting the departed the pursuit of happyness the matrix little miss sunshine no country for old men seriously dude, i understand it being your personal opinion, but the way to explained it was really ridiculous to read. i'll mention the birds and the shawshank redemption | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pulp_Joker at May 13, 2008, 11:38 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | If we are going by the question of "What are the mst influential films or the films that affected cinema the most?" This would be my list and very few other films even could warrant arguement to be on the list, IMO. I een think some of the film on this list are a little shaky. The Arrival of the Train Ciotat Station A Trip to The Moon The Great Train Robbery The Birth of a Nation The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari Nosferatu (22) Nanook of the North Battleship Potemkin The Jazz Singer The Man With a Movie Camera Un Chien Andalou King Kong (33) Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Gone With the Wind The Rules of the Game Citizen Kane Meshes of the Afternoon Rome: Open City Bicycle Thieves Rashomon The Seventh Seal Pather Panchali Shadows The 400 Blows Breathless Psycho La Dolce Vita L'Avventura 8 1/2 Bonnie and Clyde 2001: A Space Odyssey Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song The Godfather Jaws Taxi Driver Star Wars Pulp Fiction Titanic If the question becomes what are the most well-known films, the answers would ch... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: hasselbrad at May 13, 2008, 7:57 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Salieri Heaven's Gate certainly changed things. Unforgiven for basically revitalizing/resuscitating the genre. After Heaven's Gate, no one thought another Western would ever get made. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: spacemonkey at May 13, 2008, 7:48 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Cannibal Holocaust defenetly help shape the 'documentary style' films like The Blair Witch Project and Cloverfield. Blade Runner should defenetly make it onto this list, there was nothing like it before. A Nightmare Before Christmas, for having brought back stop motion animation and taken it to a whole new level of excellence and coolness. The Shinning for being such an excellent example of what a good horror film should be like. Jaws for helping create what is now known as the 'summer blockbuster'. Eraserhead, Rocky Horror Picture Show and El Topo for creating the 'midnite show' and popularizing the term 'cult film'. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Salieri at May 13, 2008, 12:44 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Yeah, Blair Witch could at least be credited with starting the whole marketing online thing (was it the first?) and maybe popularizing the amateur footage type camera pov. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Potzer! 37 at May 12, 2008, 11:39 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Still, it was first time directors, working with a first time script for a small budget...if you mean the REALLY independent films, well...not sure how many of them are all that good, let alone defining to the rest of the field of indy. American Movie is a great little doc that's wonderful... American Splendor, though, I'm not postive how indy it is. Blair Witch is a good pic...not a fan, so it never occured to me. I guess Saw fits in there as well (shot in 11 days!) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Shinigami at May 12, 2008, 11:34 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Thanks for the list! I'm also looking for those really small pet project films. Even indie darlings like Little Miss Sunshine had decent production values, not to mention recognizeable actors. The Blair Witch Project is a big one I just remembered. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Potzer! 37 at May 12, 2008, 10:46 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Shinigami Does anybody know a list of films that defined the independent movie scene? I know a lot of early horror movies were made for shoestrings, so I suppose they could be argued. Pulp fiction, maybe? Any help? I wonder what films defined the term grindhouse scene, too. Cannibal holocaust is definitely one, but I can't think of any others. In Reverse Chronological Order (for the most part): Little Miss Sunshine Good Night and Good Luck Cabin Fever Lost in Translation (I'm actually kind of stuck here for some reason...anybody know some great influential indie flicks from around 1998 to 2005 or so?) Election He Got Game Fargo Chasing Amy Pulp Fiction Clerks Do the Right Thing She's Gotta Have It Slacker Halloween Mean Streets Easy Rider (Grindhouse isn't my thing...more into the emotional stuff and of course as a child of the 90's I've been to a drive in all of one time and I saw Men in Black...hardly a grindhouse film) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Le_Big_Mac at May 12, 2008, 7:25 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | The Great Train Robbery
A Trip to the Moon
The Birth of a Nation
Nosferatu (1922)
Battleship Potemkin
Metropolis
Un Chien Andalou
Frankenstein
King Kong (1933)
It Happened One Night
Stagecoach
High Sierra
Citizen Kane
Double Indemnity
The Third Man
Rashomon
The Day the Earth Stood Still
The Thing From Another World
The Big Heat
On the Waterfront
The Killing
The Searchers
Breathless (1960)
Psycho
8 1/2
The Man With No Name Trilogy
Bonnie and Clyde
Night of the Living Dead (1968)
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Wild Bunch
Dirty Harry
The Godfather
Mean Streets
The Exorcist
Blazing Saddles
Black Christmas (1975)
Jaws
Star Wars
Annie Hall
Halloween
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Do the Right Thing
Goodfellas
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Toy Story
Saving Private Ryan
The Matrix
LOTR | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Shinigami at May 12, 2008, 6:35 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Does anybody know a list of films that defined the independent movie scene? I know a lot of early horror movies were made for shoestrings, so I suppose they could be argued. Pulp fiction, maybe? Any help? I wonder what films defined the term grindhouse scene, too. Cannibal holocaust is definitely one, but I can't think of any others. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at May 12, 2008, 5:52 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by echo_bravo Titanic James Cameron basically said "Fuck this. I am going to spend whatever I want to." Kevin Costner and Kevin Reynolds beat him to it (Waterworld) . | | Static Link |
| Posted by: DME at May 12, 2008, 5:00 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | I think the marketing blitz for Tim Burton's Batman changed the way the industry sells its blockbusters to the masses. As far as re-igniting the superhero genre as we see it today, I'm going to give Blade a nod. It was Marvel's 1st big screen success, even though they didn't stamp their name on it. I remember reading an article after it came out and was surprisingly successful with a Marvel higher-up lamenting the company's failure to attach its name to the product and basically vowing not to let that happen again. I think it gave Marvel the confidence to push forward. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: darknite125 at May 12, 2008, 4:49 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Cabinet of Dr. Caligari Phantom of the Opera (1925) Birth of a Nation The General Nosferatu Snow White King Kong Metropolis The Jazz Singer Dracula Frankenstein Bride of Frankenstein Casablanca Citizen Kane Maltese Falcon Creature From the Black Lagoon On the Water Front Day the Earth Stood Still Night of the Living Dead Double Indemnity Planet of the Apes Psycho Vertigo Taxi Driver Dr. Strangelove Wizard of Oz Ten Commandments 2001 The Godfather Star Wars trilogy Superman Raiders of the Lost Ark Toy Story All Quiet on the Western Front LOTR | | Static Link |
| Posted by: athf1980 at May 12, 2008, 4:40 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Snow White & the seven drawfs Wizard of Oz GOTW Casablanca Citizen Kane Streetcar name desire On the waterfront Bridge on the River Kwai Lawerenc of Arabia Graduate Godfather parts 1 & 2 Ten Commendments Star Wars esp 4 & 5 Raiders of the Lost arc One Flew over the cuckoo nest Dirty Harry Halloween Psycho North bynorth west vertgio sceachers Rear window Goodfellas Rocky Taxi Driver Raging Bull Pulp Fiction Toy Story LOTR The Matrix | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Powerslave at May 12, 2008, 4:38 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | Some that haven't been mentioned: The Jazz Singer
Battleship Potemkin
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (most Disney classics, for that matter, are immediately recognizable to most people)
Toy Story
Taxi Driver
A Clockwork Orange
Superman (set the standard for comic book adaptations) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: CosmicPuppet at May 12, 2008, 2:36 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Still, it's way too early to say Iron Man changed the industry in any way. If anything, Iron Man had a lot of help because its riding the wave of the superhero genre. I'm not trying to take anything away from the film, but let's face it, the superhero genre is one of the most profitable sub-genres of all time. I think Iron Man was a very entertaining film but it didn't exactly reinvent the wheel. If anything, it was X-Men that revitalized the superhero genre despite it being a flawed movie and I'd say less entertaining than Iron Man. It still made more of an impact though in the grand scheme of things. I wonder how the Dark Knight will affect the genre and Watchmen if it's anything like the comic. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at May 12, 2008, 2:29 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Max Cady Its raised the bar on what movies in general should be like. The acting is on a whole new level of whats been in the industry for the past 10 years. Some of this is a credit to Downey Jr. who might be one of the best actors of our time CGI Acting Plot Cinematography marketing Pretty much everything and thats why it made $200 million in 1 weekend I guess you mean worldwide. It made a lot of money because it's a kickass movie; yes, Downey Jr. is great in the movie, but I don't think many movies, other than its sequels, will be coming to it for inspiration on how to do CGI, story, or cinematography. It's a well made movie, but I don't think it's going to cause a revolution in the film industry. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Max Cady at May 12, 2008, 2:24 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Potzer! 37 Iron Man? Really?...it's been out a two weeks...what's it done in the past 16 days to affect the industry? Its raised the bar on what movies in general should be like. The acting is on a whole new level of whats been in the industry for the past 10 years. Some of this is a credit to Downey Jr. who might be one of the best actors of our time CGI Acting Plot Cinematography marketing Pretty much everything and thats why it made $200 million in 1 weekend | | Static Link |
| Posted by: john_rambo at May 12, 2008, 1:45 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | The Godfather for mafia movies Rocky for sports movies Bad News Bears for any kids sport movie there after Batman for Superhero movies | | Static Link |
| Posted by: CosmicPuppet at May 12, 2008, 1:11 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | haha, I love how people let personal taste cloud their judgment when the topic is to clearly put that aside in order to evaluate how influential a film was. My picks: La Dolce Vita and Dr. Strangelove. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at May 12, 2008, 12:49 pm | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Potzer! 37 Iron Man? Really?...it's been out a two weeks...what's it done in the past 16 days to affect the industry? Not to mention Havoc, Crank and Snatch . . . I like the last two, but I wouldn't exactly call them influential. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Potzer! 37 at May 12, 2008, 11:53 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Max Cady Snatch Goodfellas Crank Iron Man Havoc Citizen Kane American Gangster Iron Man? Really?...it's been out a two weeks...what's it done in the past 16 days to affect the industry? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at May 12, 2008, 11:42 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Movies would not be movies without The Great Train Robbery (1903) and Birth of a Nation (1915) where narratives were explored and used for the first time, among other filmmaking techniques. I doubt the average joe on the street knows this, but I think these two movies helped jumpstart the film industry. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: JasonBourne at May 12, 2008, 11:14 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | The Matrix for it's use of bullet cam. Lots of imitations were used afterwards. NFL even tried its own version for the Super Bowl a few years ago. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Potzer! 37 at May 12, 2008, 10:30 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Terminator 2 as far as re-defining the action genre and putting CGI into another world...add Jurassic Park as well, with the first big huge moive to rely on CG created characters. Annie Hall---I've said it before and I'll say it again; the biggest influence on romantic comedies ever. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Worthystevens at May 12, 2008, 10:28 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | I'd also add Black Christmas, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Halloween for starting the slasher genre. Psycho's also pretty iconic, but it's not really a slasher movie. Then Scream for reviving it again. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lost in Space at May 12, 2008, 10:24 am | | Topic: What Movies Defined The Industry? Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by vesaker I think LotR defined what can be done in a Fantasy flick wiht enough time and energy put into the product. I agree, lotr was a masterpeice in so many ways, it needs to be included. i see it as becoming truly influential. | | Static Link |
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