| Posted by: Brian Kraft at April 27, 2008, 3:40 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | TomTraubertsBlues wrote: Quote:While I am grateful for the info, I have to admit that I really can't make hide nor hair of it. I can't tell who is saying what, nor what the source material is. Sorry if I sound ungrateful, I am not. I just don't really understand much of this due to the cut and past structure and fragmented passages. Mike Sorry. Here are the URL's for the actual messages from the poster, so you can retrieve them yourself, no second hand information: news:gtidndu49ovHNGXanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com news:i6qdnchLAvVV22TanZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d@giganews.com news:5d2dncxKvYFf2mTaRVnyvQA@giganews.com news:bO-dnbMMs8siq2banZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@giganews.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TomTraubertsBlues at April 27, 2008, 12:23 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | "Brian Kraft" <bkraft@nyx.net> wrote in message news:48137ab4$0$33222$815e3792@news.qwest.net... Quote:gasolinegus wrote: [...]the version that was rereleased in the early 80's Further up the list of Usenet newsgroups is found the alt.binaries.* hierarchy, and there, in alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-film, is a cobbed-together version of Napoleon posted by "SimonDelDesertio". Part 1 was posted on April 6th and Part 2 on April 11th. Simon's notes: :This version is a reconstruction of the Kevin Brownlow 5 1/2 hour 1983 :restoration, in two parts. : :The template for this is from a single TV showing of the work (in this :form) from 1984 on UK C4 in the Thames Silents series with a score by :Carl Davis. DVD footage from the Coppola release has been slowed from :24fps to the correct 20fps, and replaces the majority of the vhs image.* :However Coppola also cut many scenes from the film and that vhs footage :is restored here in place.** : :*[80% of footage is from the DVD (Though Slowed)] : :**[It Came from T... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Brian Kraft at April 26, 2008, 1:56 pm | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | gasolinegus wrote: Quote:[...]the version that was rereleased in the early 80's Further up the list of Usenet newsgroups is found the alt.binaries.* hierarchy, and there, in alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-film, is a cobbed-together version of Napoleon posted by "SimonDelDesertio". Part 1 was posted on April 6th and Part 2 on April 11th. Simon's notes: :This version is a reconstruction of the Kevin Brownlow 5 1/2 hour 1983 :restoration, in two parts. : :The template for this is from a single TV showing of the work (in this :form) from 1984 on UK C4 in the Thames Silents series with a score by :Carl Davis. DVD footage from the Coppola release has been slowed from :24fps to the correct 20fps, and replaces the majority of the vhs image.* :However Coppola also cut many scenes from the film and that vhs footage :is restored here in place.** : :*[80% of footage is from the DVD (Though Slowed)] : :**[It Came from The UK National Film & Tv School Library recorded from tv :in 1984. The remarkable thing is that the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jim Beaver at April 26, 2008, 10:40 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | "John Mc Keown" <john.mcmenolikespamkeown220@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:Y2DQj.72731$jH5.36886@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... Quote:Dennis Doros of Milestone said on AMS a few years ago that the BFI were intending to get around to a NAPOLEON DVD some time. Some time. He pointed out the main hold-up is putting up the serious money to record Carl Davis' 5 1/2 hour orchestral score. On the US rights, I believe, solely from contributions of others on this newsgroup, that Coppola holds the rights only for the US. IIRC, it was also suggested a while ago, here on AMS, that Brownlow had been to seen Coppola about the rights issue, but received no joy. My suggestion: Release it as planned (?) in the UK and other parts of the world with Davis's score. And make a few hundred thousand copies in Region 1 and put them on Amazon.uk. Problem sort of solved, eh what? Jim Beaver | | Static Link |
| Posted by: John Mc Keown at April 26, 2008, 5:00 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | Dennis Doros of Milestone said on AMS a few years ago that the BFI were intending to get around to a NAPOLEON DVD some time. Some time. He pointed out the main hold-up is putting up the serious money to record Carl Davis' 5 1/2 hour orchestral score. On the US rights, I believe, solely from contributions of others on this newsgroup, that Coppola holds the rights only for the US. IIRC, it was also suggested a while ago, here on AMS, that Brownlow had been to seen Coppola about the rights issue, but received no joy. More waiting, alas. John. "TomTraubertsBlues" <msmith13@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:x9WdnfIkqezxLo_VnZ2dnUVZ_oqhnZ2d@insightbb.com... Quote:"gasolinegus" <dondelafiesta@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9d5b91f7-2799-46d9-85aa-637fadc95ecd@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com... I heard rumblings that there was a DVD being worked on for Abel Gance's NAPOLEON in London. Does anyone know if this is true and how long the running time will be? Is Kevin Brownlow involved? Will it be the versi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mikegebert@gmail.com at April 26, 2008, 4:16 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | So everybody who's kvetching about Napoleon not being on DVD HAS pre- ordered their La Roue DVD from Flicker Alley, and IS planning to write TCM a thank-you note for scheduling J'Accuse, La Roue and The Charm of Dynamite, right? Those are the two most effective things that any of us could do to encourage a Napoleon DVD-- and it's possible that after seeing them, you may not feel that getting Napoleon on DVD was all that important as opposed to David Shepard's work in rescuing from obscurity and the pages of film history books these other works. Anyway, I plan to write about them all at NitrateVille, c'mon by, but having seen Napoleon a couple of times and a much shorter La Roue many years ago, I'm much more excited about what's on TCM this Sunday than another go at Napoleon, which is less than the sum of some intermittently dazzling parts. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Guest at April 26, 2008, 3:56 am | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | On Apr 26, 1:31 am, gasolinegus wrote: Quote:Has anyone out there been lucky enough to have seen any of this new footage?? I haven't seen it, but there were comments posted back when the film was shown in London during Cristmas time, complete with the London Symphony Orchestra in attendance. This was maybe two or three years ago. You might still be able to search for the comments. I've been a big fan of the four hour, Francis Ford Coppola "Napoleon" since the first time I watched it with a good sound system. It's a shame that this version has never been shown on TCM because the "Napoleon" I've seen on Sunday nights has been awful. While I’ve read others criticize the Carmine Coppola score, I must admit that I enjoy his music more today than I do the film itself. The reason I find the film less interesting is perhaps because after many viewings (especially during the last portion in the tri-screen), it's become too obvious what is seen on the right side of the screen is simply the same film from the left side,... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TomTraubertsBlues at April 25, 2008, 11:45 pm | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | "gasolinegus" <dondelafiesta@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9d5b91f7-2799-46d9-85aa-637fadc95ecd@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com... Quote:I heard rumblings that there was a DVD being worked on for Abel Gance's NAPOLEON in London. Does anyone know if this is true and how long the running time will be? Is Kevin Brownlow involved? Will it be the version that was rereleased in the early 80's? Sorry to get your hopes up by responding, but last I heard Francis Ford Coppola refused to give an inch on this. He apparently has the rights to any US release of Napoleon. I know Photoplay has continued to add to their restoration and it now runs something like 5 1/2 hrs, but apparently nobody has ponied up the cash to put it out on DVD. Does Coppola have the right to stop a non-US release as well? Mike | | Static Link |
| Posted by: gasolinegus at April 25, 2008, 7:31 pm | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | Wow, Mike! Isn't that unfortunate... I wonder what the problem is. I'm dying to see it again. The 5 1/2 hour cut must be astounding! Has anyone out there been lucky enough to have seen any of this new footage?? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: gasolinegus at April 25, 2008, 4:49 pm | | Topic: Is there a DVD in the works for Gance's NAPOLEON? Forum: groupsrv | | I heard rumblings that there was a DVD being worked on for Abel Gance's NAPOLEON in London. Does anyone know if this is true and how long the running time will be? Is Kevin Brownlow involved? Will it be the version that was rereleased in the early 80's? | | Static Link |
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