| Posted by: gekko97 at March 22, 2006, 8:00 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I'll first lay out there that I am a Star Wars fan boy, and never really got into the show Firefly while on air. So I went into Serenity with a jaded, "this can't be as good as Star Wars" mentality. I have to give Serenity credit that it was entertaining. I enjoyed the film and own the DVD. The acting in both the Star Wars prequels and Serenity could have used a litle more emotion and depth. If we want to really compare Swashbuckling Sapce Pirates I take Han Solo (OT) over Mal any day of the week for entertainment. And this leads into my only real gripe about Serenity, in that it felt like I was watching s 2 hour TV Show. Albeit an entertaining 2 hour tv show, but still had that tv feel none the less. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: X-Nightcrawler at March 19, 2006, 8:46 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I have yet to finish watching Serenity. I bought it and didn't finish it (not because it was boring but because I wasn't getting it fully . . . and I was tired). But, I never ever pay attention to JoBlo's reviews. I mean no offense but I'm not a fan of him as a critic. Anyone who gives "The Constant Gardener" and "Bloodrayne" the same rating loses my personal interest. What bothered me most was the actual review of Constant Gardener. Nothing to do with gardening? Someone didn't pay a lot of attention. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: screamer581 at March 19, 2006, 5:05 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I am going to have to agree with Joblo on this one. I thought Serenity was a complete bore. I'll take Star Wars Episode III over Serenity any day thank you very much. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Porter at March 17, 2006, 6:19 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I enjoyed Serenity and think it was one of the better films of last year. Got to love Whedon's dialogue. But thats not to say the movie didnt have any weaknesses, for one the story was a bit confusing, but the pace and action made up for it. Heres hopin they make a sequel | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at January 20, 2006, 10:49 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by Sh8dy Milkman Ahh bigred...curse you and your levelheadedness.
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| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 20, 2006, 10:35 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by bigred760 JoBlo didn't like - let's take him out back and kick the shit out him. To each his/her own guys. From the consensus grade (8.6/10) - he's in a minority. It doesn't make him wrong, it just means he's got a different take on the movie. Ahh bigred...curse you and your levelheadedness. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bigred760 at January 18, 2006, 11:35 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | JoBlo didn't like - let's take him out back and kick the shit out him. To each his/her own guys. From the consensus grade (8.6/10) - he's in a minority. It doesn't make him wrong, it just means he's got a different take on the movie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: wildandhairy at January 16, 2006, 10:19 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Of course, with Star Wars and Serenity, it is not an either/or, eh, in terms of enjoying or not enjoying the films. I appreciate Jo Blo's review, but stick with my having enjoyed it more. Such is fate, vive la difference, etc. It is true that the characters in Serenity often had only two or so facial expressions. It is equally true of the characters in Star Wars, except for Hayden, who had one expression (a Keanu Reeves blank look that he must have spent years perfecting, it is so good). For me Serenity had the feel of the original Star Wars film. The emphasis was on fast action, making sure the audience enjoyed the show, and keeping those space ships flying. Serenity is less innovative, but what can one expect about thirty years after The New Hope first appeared? Like The New Hope, the Hans Solo/Captain blows away an enemy before the enemy can fire a shot. I'm sure many would agree with me that Lucas' inserting of Guido's firing the first shot at Hans Solo (rather than the way it originally was) was a weak ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 14, 2006, 4:37 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Squid Vicious And when did I say any of this? Quote: I'd go so far as to say it was worse than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. I have to agree with most of what JoBlo said -- unmemorable action, characters that had maybe two facial expressions each All you had to do was scroll up. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Squid Vicious at January 14, 2006, 12:35 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Sh8dy Milkman Ehh... I take it you're a Star Wars fan. Its funny that all your complaints are more fit to describe the Star Wars prequels. You accuse Serenity of having characters that lack facial expressions, and then go on to say that a movie that stars Hayden Christensen is more watchable? And when did I say any of this? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 14, 2006, 1:32 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: A lot of people seem to be saying that Serenity was way better than the Star Wars prequels. I'd go so far as to say it was worse than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. I have to agree with most of what JoBlo said -- unmemorable action, characters that had maybe two facial expressions each, and a plot that didn't really distinguish itself from any other movies of this genre. Ehh... I take it you're a Star Wars fan. Its funny that all your complaints are more fit to describe the Star Wars prequels. You accuse Serenity of having characters that lack facial expressions, and then go on to say that a movie that stars Hayden Christensen is more watchable? Serenity bashing seems to be cool now so w/e either you liked it or you didn't. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MisterTwister at January 13, 2006, 11:35 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I have never seen Firefly and enjoyed the hell out of Serenity. A exciting space adventure with great charcthers and FX. Into the Blue was alright but i agree-it gets a higher rating? WTF | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Squid Vicious at January 13, 2006, 10:26 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | A lot of people seem to be saying that Serenity was way better than the Star Wars prequels. I'd go so far as to say it was worse than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. I have to agree with most of what JoBlo said -- unmemorable action, characters that had maybe two facial expressions each, and a plot that didn't really distinguish itself from any other movies of this genre. I suppose I should mention that I've never watched an episode of Firefly, and wasn't even aware of its existence until after I watched the movie. Serenity didn't give me much desire to watch the show any time soon. 4/10 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 13, 2006, 9:23 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by chinton I would hope Lucas listens I ha d more fun in this movie than any of Lucas painful prequels Agreed | | Static Link |
| Posted by: chinton at January 12, 2006, 4:21 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I would hope Lucas listens I ha d more fun in this movie than any of Lucas painful prequels | | Static Link |
| Posted by: wildandhairy at January 9, 2006, 10:51 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I also agree that Serenity was better than Jo thought, but that's life. I only saw one episode of Firefly, so I can hardly be called a fan of the show. However, I liked Serenity--it had surprises, it had space ships, it had the hero pull his blaster and just shoot someone who was threatening him (listening, George Lucas). It had a low budget, anything goes kind of feel. It was not perfect, but it had enough action, laughs and generally hokey qualities to make it work, at least for me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 6, 2006, 6:24 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Quigles3000 I enjoyed it as a fun sci-fi swashbuckling action film. I liked it, but didn't think it was amazing. I can sort of understand why people praise it to the heavens, but I just didn't feel the same way. Fair enough | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Quigles at January 6, 2006, 2:03 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by Sh8dy Milkman Ooookkkk. What about it did you find made it a popcorn movie? I enjoyed it as a fun sci-fi swashbuckling action film. I liked it, but didn't think it was amazing. I can sort of understand why people praise it to the heavens, but I just didn't feel the same way. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 5, 2006, 7:02 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: I think I'd give it a 6/10 - it was a fun popcorn movie, but I don't think it was anything more. Ooookkkk. What about it did you find made it a popcorn movie? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Quigles at January 5, 2006, 1:42 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I wouldn't go as far as to give SERENITY a 4/10, but I didn't like it nearly as much as everyone else. I think I'd give it a 6/10 - it was a fun popcorn movie, but I don't think it was anything more. As for the 6/10 rating on INTO THE BLUE, I think it is unfair to judge the rating alone. People simply compare ratings and that's not the way to do it. You have to compare the reviews themselves. Joblo appreciated INTO THE BLUE for what it was, but didn't say it was amazing or anything - just good ol' eye candy. Before he watched SERENITY, he heard nothing but INSANE PRAISE AND HYPE, thus making his experience watching the movie much different. He also explains in detail why he did or didn't like both movies, and does so in a way that you can obviously say, "Oh, well I guess that's where we disagree." You just have to look at it differently, and understand the reasoning behing the rating, and most of all, the review. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: chinton at January 4, 2006, 11:26 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I just dont get the Serenity hate. Ive never seen Firefly but I thought the movie was a blast. It had fun characters, witty dialogue, and an intriguing and engaging plot. it was just a fun B movie space opera. Into The Blue was another B movie that did everything wrong. Annoying characters that should of died within ten minutes and a dumb story. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Sh8dy Milkman at January 3, 2006, 8:59 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Firefly got cancelled for good reason. It was apparently "Little house on the Prarie" in space. Lots of extra stuff is thrown in to try to confuse the point, but when I bothered to watch an episode and saw all of the characters (literally) set down to a candle-lit meal with space-turkey and space-rolls at the end of an episode... I knew the cancellation was justified. Firefly was canceled because Fox is pure evil. Firefly went through the same ordeals that Fox put family guy through (numerous time slots, bad advertising, and even playing the episodes out of order). And that whole space turkey/roll comment was complete bullshit and you know it. Its fine if you dont like the show...but dont try to turn others away just because you cant understand what makes this show great. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: gspawn at December 17, 2005, 3:23 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by NightStalkerGtx ^ but not that many people watched it? So how can u be so sure everyone thats seen the show loved it just because u no a friend or two that loves the show and has seen it doesnt make it "everyone" if so word of mouth wouldve been fantastic the show wouldve gotten more viewers and would probably still be on tv today. Or if the show didnt get a lot of viewers and still was canceled the movie itself wouldvt had fantastic word of mouth to keep it a float at the box office opening with just a tad over 10 mil and then droping over 50% next weekend isnt good word of mouth or much love. Joss Whedon fans tend to have trouble understanding why everyone else thinks their series of choice sucks (especially see: Angel fans). Firefly got cancelled for good reason. It was apparently "Little house on the Prarie" in space. Lots of extra stuff is thrown in to try to confuse the point, but when I bothered to watch an episode and saw all of the characters (literall... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: NightStalkerGtx at December 17, 2005, 10:16 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | ^ but not that many people watched it? So how can u be so sure everyone thats seen the show loved it just because u no a friend or two that loves the show and has seen it doesnt make it "everyone" if so word of mouth wouldve been fantastic the show wouldve gotten more viewers and would probably still be on tv today. Or if the show didnt get a lot of viewers and still was canceled the movie itself wouldvt had fantastic word of mouth to keep it a float at the box office opening with just a tad over 10 mil and then droping over 50% next weekend isnt good word of mouth or much love. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nachogrande at December 16, 2005, 10:58 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by NightStalkerGtx ilovemovies will be in the minority when Serenity makes 200 mil domestic box office, but right now hes in the majority seeing as it didnt even break 30 mil. And you cant compare serenity and into the blue. Joblo, said he got what he wanted from into the blue which is a good enough reason for liking a movie. When I said minority I was referring to the people who had seen Firefly. All the people who have followed the show or seen some of the episodes, at least in my experience, have loved it. Smartass | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Billdemart at December 16, 2005, 2:48 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I was surprised at how fast this movie came to DVD. I wanted to see it in the theater but wasn't able to. I saw every episode of Firefly and it was an excellent show. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: NightStalkerGtx at December 16, 2005, 2:30 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | ilovemovies will be in the minority when Serenity makes 200 mil domestic box office, but right now hes in the majority seeing as it didnt even break 30 mil. And you cant compare serenity and into the blue. Joblo, said he got what he wanted from into the blue which is a good enough reason for liking a movie. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: B1rd_Po0p at December 15, 2005, 10:21 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I thought the show was boring, but I really liked the movie. The only thing I didn't like were some of the lines (they sounded like they came from Little House On The Prairie) but the action was kick ass and the effects were top notch. I'll definitely buy it! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sarah1980 at December 15, 2005, 10:04 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by drdash I was floored when I read his review, the dude has to be on crack. Serenity is what all 3 prequel films should have been. Hell, Serenity made episode 3 look like Battle beyond the stars. I've got about 4 of my friends and family hooked on Firefly. Spread the word. ciao drdash *bows down to thee* | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nachogrande at December 15, 2005, 9:41 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Quote: Originally Posted by drdash I was floored when I read his review, the dude has to be on crack. Serenity is what all 3 prequel films should have been. Hell, Serenity made episode 3 look like Battle beyond the stars. I've got about 4 of my friends and family hooked on Firefly. Spread the word. ciao drdash My thoughts exactly drdash. When I was in the theater watching Serenity, I was thinking to myself, this is the movie that the Star Wars prequels should have been. Serenity was the type of movie that reminded me how truly great science fiction movies can be. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: drdash at December 15, 2005, 8:23 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I was floored when I read his review, the dude has to be on crack. Serenity is what all 3 prequel films should have been. Hell, Serenity made episode 3 look like Battle beyond the stars. I've got about 4 of my friends and family hooked on Firefly. Spread the word. ciao drdash | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Atlas1982 at December 15, 2005, 4:41 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | Sorry about posting my remarks in two posts but I have to say that I have lightened up on my criticism. It took an hour but the movie is good and has that classic sci-fi metaphysical question embedded in it that I believe draws us to the genre. Are we driven by rage and competition? What would the world be like if we all lived without anger? Would the world work? Would there be a world to live in....... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Atlas1982 at December 15, 2005, 4:17 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I'm watching Serenity now and think it is so-so. I seem to agree with Joblo as far as character intrique is concerned (except none really stand out to me as opposed to some for Joblo). Whether or not I'm influenced by the knowing it is a sci-fi show could bias me, but it feels like that a little bit. On the other hand, all sci-fi movies could feel like that. I don't hate it, and am interested to learn more about what the movie is about, but it shouldn't take a movie to tell you what to expect from upcoming movies i.e. Fantastic Four. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nachogrande at December 15, 2005, 2:34 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | Quote: Originally Posted by ilovemovies If Serentiy is anything like Firefly then Into the Blue is a better movie. Sorry, not a fan of Firefly. A find the show to be flat, dull and cheesy. I'm sure the fx are better in Serenity since it's a movie and thus has a bigger budget, but that doesn't change the hokey dialogue and flat acting.
Well im sorry pal as your in the minority | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ilovemovies at December 15, 2005, 12:51 pm | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | If Serentiy is anything like Firefly then Into the Blue is a better movie. Sorry, not a fan of Firefly. A find the show to be flat, dull and cheesy. I'm sure the fx are better in Serenity since it's a movie and thus has a bigger budget, but that doesn't change the hokey dialogue and flat acting. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sarah1980 at December 15, 2005, 3:15 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | im not surprised someone started a forum about joblo disses serenity thank god it wasn't me (hint @ avatar) im sorry but it's way fucking better then into the blue or star wars ep III | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SiliconWarrior at December 15, 2005, 2:13 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I too was baffled by the negative review. Normally I agree with what joblo says but he and I are coompletely opposed on this one. I loved Serenity and I had never seen any of the Firefly episodes or even any positive word of mouth. I only saw it because It was a boring day and I felt like seeing a movie I knew nothing about. I thought the action scenes were excellent, the writing was very clever, loved the score, thought all the characters were interesting...I'm just shcoked that he would give this film the equal rating of The Whole Ten Yards. This is the best science fiction movie i've seen since possibly the original star wars trilogy (although is much better than the new trilogy). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: nachogrande at December 15, 2005, 1:02 am | | Topic: Joblo disses Serenity Forum: JoBlo | | I'm scratching my head thinking how anybody could think that Into the Blue is better than Serenity. Granted, Joblo hadn't seen any firefly episodes so he went into the movie knowing absolutely nothing about the characters and the universe they inhabit. I know I'm biased in my opinion because I absolutely adored Firefly and Serenity is my fave movie of the year, but come on 4/10 and Into the Blue 6/10 what gives? | | Static Link |
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