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Posted by: Bourne101 at July 3, 2008, 12:35 pm
Topic: Your opinions on Quentin Tarantino's movies. Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by max314 "Groundbreaking"? How exactly? Just the way he tells the story is simply amazing. For example, if I were watching it without sound, the scene where Butch and Marcellus end up at the pawn shop would still be astounding. You see them end up at the pawn shop, and then obviously there's some other crazy shit going down there. Marcellus gets taken out back to get raped, and Butch escapes. Then Butch takes into consideration the consequences, and puts himself on the other end of the stick. He then goes back and saves Marcellus. The way it is done, the way it is shot, the way it is acted is simply brilliant. It is one of the greatest scenes of all-time, dialogue or no dialogue. Quote: Originally Posted by max314 I think Tarantino's fresh, confident style in Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction won him a lot of good faith from audiences and critics alike. But as evidenced by later reactions towards Jackie Brown (which I actually like), Kill Bill, and Death Proof, it seems the "wow" factor associated with Quentin has begun to wear off somewhat. Well, since I know you love statistics so much (these are all community or public ratings, since I know you hate critics, although critics loved all of these movies anyway): Jackie Brown- 88% RT community, 7.6/10 IMDB, B on yahoo movies, 8.3/10 Metacritc. So at this point it hadn't worn off... Kill Bill: Volume 1- 91% RT community, 8.2/10 IMDB (#123 all-time), B+ on yahoo movies, 6.2/10 Metacritic Still hadn't worn off... Kill Bill: Volume 2- 90% RT community, 8.1/10 IMDB (#181 all-time), B on Yahoo movies, 7.2/10 Metacritic STILL hadn't worn off... Death Proof- 92% RT community, 8/10 IMDB, B on Yahoo movies, 7.3/10 Metacritic Hmm... So it seems as though you assumed that the wow factor or enjoyment had worn off, when it is quite obvious that it hasn't. Obviously they're not all going to match up with Pulp Fiction, because it is simply one of the greatest films of all-time, but all of his movies are loved by many. Not just a few people here and there, not just teens, not just adults, a large majority of people. Quote: Originally Posted by max314 The problem is that there's very little substance or maturity to his work. His characters are caricatures, and his increasingly self-conscious dialogue usurps screentime to the detriment of the narrative. And as time goes on and Quentin continues to repeat himself, the fresh sheen that once gave films like Pulp Fiction a free pass simply becomes yet another cinema cliché. Albeit one that he sort of "invented". And something that actually serves as a pace killer. Well, I pretty much disagree with all of that, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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