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Posted by: spacemonkey at March 26, 2008, 4:15 pm

Topic: Defining Film Noir . . . Forum: JoBlo

Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 I would not consider Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow remotely Noir . . . but the rest are decent examples of Neo-Noir. I have never seen Crimewave so cannot answer to it. You havent because its the only Raimi/Coens film not to be on DVD. Its a damn shame cause its sooooooo noirish man, theres a storm in the city, its windy, its thundering and lightning through out the whole movie, but strangely enough theres no rain. Just a lot of wind blowing and the city streets are deserted. Bruce Campbell is on it and hes a heal in it. "So what, Im a heal, so what of it?" Very cool movie, I hope one day it reaches its way to DVD. You would defenetly dig it. But its noir mixed with Raimis unique kinetic and hyperactive camera work, and some slapstick for good measure. Its certainly a strange mix, but you know the Coen bros. worked on it, and you know they have always loved the noir genre. And what I meant when I mentioned Sky Captain is that at the very least it has a noir film feel to it...of course its not a text book example of it. Quote: Originally Posted by auge_28 I would guess that these films are limited in there relationship to Film Noir . . . I would say that the genres are more likely step children of each other. The parent they share is German Expressionism . . . probably based more on Robert Wiene's The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1922). I see what you mean, but the connection with those Universal films to german expressionism and Universal films is not so out there. A lot of german directors and cinematographers ended up working on this old Universal flicks and were part of the early seeds that would later become film Noir. Cinematographers like Karl Freund, who did the cinematography on Dracula. And if you watch The Invisible Man (directed by James Whale) youll see just how close to a Noir film it is. Not to mention his dark and mysterious The Old Dark House. Yeah they are horror films, but they helped shape the genre were talking about here. Quote: The Naked City, White Heat, Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard The Third Man. Those will give you a pretty good cross section of films to go by. Thanks for the suggestions man, Ill get working on those.

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