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Posted by: auge_28 at March 26, 2008, 12:59 pm
Topic: Defining Film Noir . . . Forum: JoBlo
Quote: Originally Posted by the saw is family i don't feel noir is exclusively american. i think it was originally american. i think godard's breathless (while not strictly a noir, it's really about noirs more than anything, it contains many of the classic noir elements). i consider melville's bob le flambeur to be a noir, there are also many other non-american noirs. as for the neo-noir genre, i think they may be a little too self aware, but there are films that fit into the category. brick is a good example of a neo-noir, that while being 100% self aware of what it was doing it still fits into the noir genre.i also think the original noirs were a product of their times and it would be nearly impossible to create a noir film know without some semblance of self awareness. So we seem to be in agreement. With a defining line being Neo-Noir vs. Noir or self-aware vs, not self-aware. There are hundreds of noir aesthetic films made after the classic period (and a couple made before) . . . but I feel they must not be confused with the classic period examples. I did not mean to imply that only American can make film with Noir aesthetics, but that pretty much anything other than classic period American Noir is self aware and falls into another category, and is not a true example of the untainted art form. Melville's Bob le flambeur falls just inside the classic period but I do not think it counts as it is a precursor to the French New Wave movement which everybody knows takes several pages from the Film Noir style . . . and is thus self-aware.

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