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Posted by: Agent Smith at December 11, 2007, 6:22 pm

Topic: Modern Film Noir Forum: groupsrv

Harkness wrote: I wonder if film noir may be experiencing a recent resurgence, and the movies that make me think so are No Country for Old Men, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, LA Confidential, Get Shorty, its sequel & it's titular rip-off Get Carter, The Lookout. What other such films have I forgotten, since, say, LA Confidential won the Oscar? Hell, I think even Memento was film noir. :] recent? -- at least two of those films are ten years old. anyway, they don't make film noirs any more because film noir is period. Nah, you've just gotta get used to the color, and they've been creeping back toward b&w for at least those ten years. With The Good German (which I forgot from my list) they've finally realized that the washed out monochromatic look was just B&W in disguise, so they decided to call a spade a spade. Hopefully they'll use that spade to keep burying bodies. :] Quote:They make neo-noir or they get all retro -- L.A. Confidential is the latter, The Lookout and Brick are the former. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is a wildly riffing satire on 80s crime movies. Memento is the one most in the ball park. "Neo-noir," is that one of them there fancy words that they taught you in film class? I didn't think Kiss Kiss was satire, but just a great detective movie, pure and simple. The mark of well-written noir is that it has to be so overwritten that it's just a breath away from melodrama. I guess that's just easy to mistake for satire. Ya gotta remember, this stuff was once formula writing from the Prohibition-era dime-novels, and you can't take it any more seriously than Doc Savage or The Shadow. Ya also gotta remember that since it's formula writing, there will be cliches that are so familiar to some people that they seem laughable. But that's just the formula talking, Mac.

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